Today at the Editor’s glance: The Flagler County Parks and Recreation Advisory Board meets at 10 a.m. in the first floor conference room at the Government Services Building in Bunnell. The board is expected to discuss the upcoming Creekside Festival, which returns after covid’s hiatus, and returns under the new ownership of Flagler Broadcasting. The Palm Coast City Council meets at 5:30 p.m. at City Hall for the second and final budget and property tax approval hearing. The outcome of the hearing is not in doubt. The big question: will Councilman Ed Danko manage to go through the hearing politely, or at least without insulting Councilman Nick Klufas? Have you seen Dr. Paul Mucciolo’s thanks to the staff at AdventHealth Palm Coast?
Health Department’s Covid Testing and Vaccination Schedule and Information through Sept. 25:
Priority will be given to any students, faculty and school staff of public or private schools in Flagler County, followed by the general public, who should schedule testing appointments by calling 386-437-7350 ext. 0.
Wednesday, September 22 8AM to 11AM
Thursday, September 23 8AM to 11AM
Friday, September 24 8AM to 11AM
Saturday, September 25 CLOSED
Sunday, September 26 CLOSED
Please consider the following when testing with DOH-Flagler.
* Testing should take place at least 3 to 5 days after exposure. Testing sooner than this may result in false negatives.
* This is NOT a drive-through test site. You will park and walk into the Cattleman’s Hall where testing takes place.
* Wear a mask inside the testing facility. Should you test positive, you may be asked to exit the facility and wait for the rest of your party outside to avoid transmission.
* DOH staff continue to work extended hours to keep up with the contact tracing and case investigation. We appreciate your ongoing patience. It may take time for DOH to reach individuals who test positive for COVID-19. Take initiative to isolate for at least ten days and encourage close contacts to watch for symptoms.
* If you are identified as a close contact to someone who tests positive, you may not hear from the health department if resources are not available.
* If you have been vaccinated (two weeks after your final dose) you will not need to quarantine if you do not have symptoms.
* If you have symptoms, get tested as soon as possible.
* Students will need to quarantine at least four days after the date of exposure.
Monoclonal Antibody Treatments are now available in Flagler County at Daytona State College’s Palm Coast Campus. Monoclonal Antibody Treatments (MAB) for COVID-19 can prevent severe illness, hospitalization and death among high-risk individuals. Individuals 12 years and older who are high-risk, that have contracted or been exposed to COVID-19, are eligible for this treatment. Treatment is free.
Vaccinations continue to be offered at 301 Dr. Carter Blvd on Mondays from 3:30 to 6:00PM. Appointments are preferred; Walk-ins are welcome. The health department is awaiting guidance for the administration of booster doses. CVS, Walgreens, Publix and Walmart are offering boosters to immunocompromised individuals.
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May 2025
ESL Bible Studies for Intermediate and Advanced Students
Grace Community Food Pantry on Education Way
Palm Coast Farmers’ Market at European Village
Gamble Jam at Gamble Rogers Memorial State Recreation Area
Al-Anon Family Groups
RockabillieWillie At City Repertory Theatre
Flagler County Library Board of Trustees
Nar-Anon Family Group
Bunnell City Commission Meeting
For the full calendar, go here.
“But looking at the internet, I don’t see many ideas worth dying for.”
–Sally Rooney, “Beautiful World, Where Are You?” (2021).
Trailer Bob says
The cartoon is interesting, especially reading it in FlaglerLive.
Brings things into perspective on the comparisons.
And of course no…Trump didn’t Kill any Children.
Pogo says
@”…Brings things into perspective on the comparisons.
And of course no…Trump didn’t Kill any Children.”
Bringing things into perspective on the comparisons.
https://www.google.com/search?q=drone+strikes+under+trump
And so it goes…
https://clip.cafe/no-country-old-men-2007/here-last-week-found-couple-out-in-california/
Ray W. says
Sally Rooney’s comment brings to mind Mr. Tristam’s significant effort to bring local news to FlaglerLive readers via the internet. While castigated by many and thanked by few, FlaglerLive provides a forum to its many readers. I suppose Rooney is right, in that very little of what pours in a torrent through the internet is worth dying for, but it wasn’t always that way. Consider the point that each of the Federalist Papers was initially published as a newspaper column by newspaper owners favoring adoption of the proposed Constitution, a format loosely akin to today’s editorial pages.
Compare today’s news marketplace with that confronting our founding fathers. At the time of our Revolution, printing presses were a somewhat rare and expensive investment. Accepting the radical and turbulent times, it perhaps was to be expected that several New York publishers who favored the Tory view in the early years of the rebellion saw their investments destroyed by mobs. Had those publishers stayed to defend their presses, they may have died, or at least have been tarred or run out of town on a rail. In this context, it might be argued that free speech was expensive and worth protecting.
Today, free speech is cheap. Those who wish to disseminate fake news have no skin in the game; all they need to do is find a forum that is willing to transmit their ideas, without regard to the cost to us all. Mr. Tristam expends significant energy culling those who wish to disseminate fake news from the rest, which seems to me an endless task, an issue that Facebook, Twitter and other large internet mediums are only recently beginning to seriously address.
I often think of Winston Churchill’s remarkable series of meetings just after WWI with Michael Collins, an Irish nationalist leader who was chosen to enter into negotiations with the British over independence for Ireland. Churchill granted safe passage to Collins, despite a large government bounty placed on Collins’ head, so to speak. Collins accepted Churchill’s invitation and travelled to London. Upon entering Churchill’s office, Collins glared at his hated enemy. Churchill, as the story goes, broke the ice by reaching into his desk for a document setting out the bounty issued by the Boer government on his own head after Churchill’s escape from captivity during the Boer war for independence. Collins read the document and commented that the bounty was only 25 pounds, much less than the British bounty on Collins. Churchill replied that the much higher bounty reflected the significant respect the British government had for Collins. Collins paused, smiled, reached across the desk, and the two shook hands. Collins ended up negotiating independence for most of Ireland, but four northern counties remained under British control. Collins is said to have foretold his own assassination to Churchill for having failed to negotiate independence for all of Ireland, a fate soon bestowed on him by members of his own party. Churchill, prior to Collins’ assassination, is said to have commented favorably about Collins to colleagues arguing that the worth of any nation balances on whether good men are willing to die to preserve it.
Today, those who seek to disseminate fake news are more than willing to consign others to death, but their own life? Not so much. What type of nation would they found, if successful in overthrowing our own great experiment in liberal Constitutional democracy? Would freedom of speech even exist in their brave new world as they shout down maskers and vaxxers?
Sherry says
Not to confuse anyone with actual “FACTS”:
In Libya, from the end of the 2011 UN-approved military intervention through March 31, 2020, there were 4,500 air, drone, and artillery strikes in Libya, carried out by many warring Libyan factions and their foreign supporters including the American, Russian, United Arab Emirates, Turkish, and Egyptian governments. The U.S. carried out 550 strikes (from all methods, not just drones), almost all of them in Operation Odyssey Lightning in 2016. The U.S. strikes killed between 238 and 298 people, of whom between 227 and 277 were combatants, and between 11 and 21 were civilians.[9]
In Somalia, there were a total of 263 U.S. counter-terrorism airstrikes, drone strikes, and ground raids from 2003 to 2021. Of the 263, the majority (202) occurred under the Trump administration. Collectively, between 1,479 and 1,886 people have been killed in the U.S. strikes in Somalia: between 1,389 and 1,696 militants, between 34 and 121 civilians, and between 56 and 69 unknowns.[10]
Pogo says
@Ray W.
Firstly, my earnest gratitude for your, as always, thoughtful and illuminating words.
As for, “…What type of nation would they found, if successful in overthrowing our own great experiment in liberal Constitutional democracy?…”
Probably a “traditional conservative values” model — like they’re working on in the “great” states of taxus, (sic) floriduh, (sic) et. al.:
https://www.google.com/search?q=taliban+leader+says+executions+to+resume
“Cogito ergo sum.”
https://www.vox.com/2014/11/17/7229547/philosophy-quotes-misunderstood-wittgenstein-sartre-descartes
Ray W. says
Two thoughts:
First, if a collection of assorted agitators who are averse to government in all its forms and dependent on a demagogue for leadership ever overthrow our experiment in liberal Constitutional democracy, I suppose it possible that a “traditional conservative values” model government might fill the vacuum, but I am far more concerned with the idea that the white nationalist tribes with flags will be unable to run any style of government. I am reminded of a scene in the excellent movie, Lawrence of Arabia, in which various Arab leaders who led the assault on Damascus argue over who would staff the pumps that supply water throughout the city, a scene that did not mean much to me when I first watched it, but gained significance in my mind over the passing decades. The scene depicts the chaos emerging from a lack of leadership as fires rage throughout the city. None of the Arab leaders want to take responsibility for the actual workings of the city, arguing that it is beneath their dignified status to have to do such things. They ask a British officer to intervene with engineers. The officer declines the request, stating that the Arabs took Damascus from the Ottomans without asking the British, so they can keep Damascus without British help. The Arab leaders leave the room one by one. Ordinary Damascenes suffered. The Arab leaders simply abandoned the city. Can it be argued that the ordinary white nationalist who dreams of destroying America in an effort to save it is no more experienced in running a government? Are they no more than a collection of like-minded people who cannot think further ahead than assaulting a capital building, not knowing what will come after? Tribes with flags, indeed!
Second, in van Buren’s Edges of Language: An Essay in the Logic of a Religion, van Buren argues that mankind’s innate desire, perhaps even a quest, to understand the unknowable, i.e., the infinite being of God, requires one to stretch the boundaries of language in a never-ending but necessary effort to understand God’s will. With human beings limited by their finite nature, van Buren poses the idea that the only way we can expand our capacity to understand infinite is to expand our use of language. In this way, van Buren echoes Wittgenstein’s address of mankind’s limited capacity to understand the unknowable.
Thank you, Pogo. Thank you, Mr. Tristam.
Ray W. says
Thank you, Sherry. It appears, like some other commenters, that Trailer Bob possesses the capacity to make a claim, any claim, but lacks the capacity to prove it. On the other hand, perhaps the claim was all he ever intended to make.
Sherry says
Thanks so much, Ray W. While “I ” certainly appreciate your many educated, intelligent analyses, I fear that your words are lost on many of Flaglerlive’s readers. So unfortunate. . . but, indicative of the times! Keep them coming!
Pogo says
@I know that film by heart
I’ve had dreams about the opening sequence…
https://drivetribe.com/p/son-of-thunder-lawrence-of-arabia-WGw0_WjARd-HkalCV2vLaw?iid=fdAZmFP6TTaDn2OMLUw8gQ
With Major Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me, it is merely good manners. You may judge which motive is the more reliable.
— Prince Faisal
Sherry says
And. . . Yes, Ray W. . . it has been my observation that many of those who comment here seem to possess no original thoughts of their own. They merely post, all too common, “talking points” from FOX, or Russian/Chinese propaganda on social media sites. Over the years, those media outlets have clearly corrupted the independent thought processes and moral code of many thousands of upstanding American citizens.
It’s illuminating that those who are challenged by actual “credible” facts most often retreat into silence as they are unable to defend proven disinformation. Still hoping that Trailer Bob was being simply sarcastic. . . as I first assumed.