Palm Coast Mayor Mike Norris wants to sell the “bougie” Southern Recreation Center, cut spending out of the city’s property tax revenue by $10 million, or a third, and roll back the tax rate even as it’s fallen 12 percent in five years.
Norris set those goals at the end of Tuesday’s council meeting even as he repeatedly contradicted himself, saying he is “happy with the last year’s budget,” that if “we’re going to cut $10 million from your ad valorem, that’s going to be devastating to this city,” and that if Palm Coast overshot its budget in the last five years, going by Florida Chief Financial Officer Blaise Ingoglia’s controversial formula, it did so by only a modest $3 or $3.4 million.
Norris was responding to Ingoglia’s campaign tour that uses local government budgets as props to claim that local governments are overspending. The claims are based on an economically dubious formula and a total absence of documentation or specifics. In an appearance in Flagler last month, Ingoglia attacked Flagler County government but spared Palm Coast. Norris was in the audience, as were numerous local elected officials.
“Our big concern was where our city, our city fell within this methodology that they’re using,” Norris said Tuesday. “He did mention at the meeting that there’s two states, I think, Utah and Colorado, that use that as their benchmark, and he says it’s very effective,” Norris said of Ingoglia.
It is not. Like most of what Ingoglia says in his presentation, he was inaccurate.
“Colorado is the poster child for fiscal conservative and fiscal conservatism and keeping government in check because it is enshrined in their constitution,” Ingoglia had said in his presentation in Flagler County, claiming that Colorado applied the same formula by law. “So we take the same methodology and we apply it to local governments to contextualize how large these governments have grown.”
In fact, Colorado’s general fund budget has increased 40 percent between 2019 and 2025, from $11.6 billion to $16.2 billion, according to the Urban Institute, a government think tank. Its population increased 7.1 percent in that period, and inflation increased 27.8 percent.
Utah’s figures are worse: its general fund went from $7.5 billion in 2019 to $12.7 billion in 2025, a 69 percent increase.
Norris took Ingoglia’s claims at his word, without verification. He summoned Helena Alves, the city’s finance director, until he had “extracted what I needed” from her, as he put it.
Alves had applied the same formula to the city’s budgets that Ingoglia devised: taking the general fund budget of 2019 and comparing it to the current budget, then adjusting for population and inflation increases since. Ingoglia’s formula also applies what he has referred to as a 10 to 15 percent “inefficiency factor.”
“So your approved City Council budget was higher by 5 percent of the calculated number using a formula for inflation, population and inflation,” Alves said.
Council member Ty Miller calculated that taking only property tax revenue and spending, the excess is “less than 5 percent.” In dollars, that’s around $3 million, Miller said.
Alves did not include Ingoglia’s inefficiency factor, or “buffer,” as Norris called it. Had she done so, the city’s numbers would have been $1.7 to $2 million under budget.
The city’s property taxes generated $43 million this year. The property tax in 2019 was $4.689 per $1,000 in taxable value. It is now $4.0893, or 12.8 percent lower. The homesteaded owner of a $300,000 house with a $50,000 exemption would have paid $1,172 in 2019, and is now paying $1,020, not accounting for appreciation or inflation, a $152 saving.
In inflation-adjusted dollars, and with cumulative inflation adding up to 27.8 percent over that period, the homeowner is paying $478 less, since the 2019 bill would have been $1,498 in current dollars. That’s $478 in decreased purchasing power for the city.
The $42.7 million in property tax revenue in the general fund is less than the $44.6 million the city spends on police and fire services, when capital projects are included. Without capital projects, the city this year is spending $16 million for fire services, $11.2 million for policing through the Sheriff’s Office, or 64 percent of property tax revenue.
In 2019, the city spent $9 million for fire services and $3.5 million for policing. In other words, the fire budget has increased 78 percent and the policing budget has increased 220 percent. Norris made no reference to those increases, and usually applies the Ingoglia formula to police and fire: those budgets are untouchable.
Despite Alves’s and Miller’s numbers showing the city’s general fund within five percent of Ingoglia’s goal without an inefficiency adjustment, Norris said the city had hired too many employees and was spending too much money.
The city is about to start its annual “strategic action plan,” or SAP, process, when the council sets out its priorities.
“I would like us to cut our ad valorem, which is strictly from property tax, around $8 to $10 million,” he said. “Another thing that I want when we start talking about the SAP, is consideration of selling that Southern Recreation Center,” the tennis, pickleball and community center that opened in 2024 and that the city has since touted as a jewel among its recreation offerings. As if to make the point, the administration on Wednesday issued a release touting the coming high school tennis tournament at the Rec Center, a pointed rebuff to the mayor.
“The Southern Recreation Center is a drain on our money. It is. It’s going to be a bigger drain,” Norris claimed. “To me, the Southern Recreation Center is not a true recreation center. It is a racket center, plain and simple. And me personally, you can cuss me all you want, but to me, tennis and pickleball, those are bougie sports. The high number of population of kids in our city are not running down to the Southern Recreation Center. So we can market that Southern Recreation Center and sell it and gain back those revenues. Let somebody else that wants to manage that kind of facility do it.”
He said the center is costing the city $850,000. The actual figure is $762,000. He did not provide figures for Holland Park, Waterfront Park or the Palm Coast Community Center. The city’s parks, recreation and park facilities maintenance budget is $6.7 million, not including the Rec Center, the municipal swimming pool or its Palm Harbor Golf Club.
“If the state says we’re going to cut $10 million from your ad valorem, that’s going to be devastating to this city,” Norris said. “So we need to cut and trim, become as efficient as possible. And my take away from the CFO and some of the people in Tallahassee is either you consolidate down, regroup and reevaluate, or you become irrelevant.”
Norris was mischaracterizing both the state mandate and the CFO’s authority, whose limits he did not appear to understand.
The state is not requiring local governments to cut $10 million from their budgets. Norris was referring to House Bill 1329, which calls for a required “budget exercise” of showing what a potential 10 percent reduction in the overall budget of a local government would look like. The law does not specify that the 10 percent must apply only to the general fund. The law exempts police, fire and “legal obligations.” The law does not require governments to apply the 10 percent cut to their budgets. It only requires that the “exercise” be conducted at a workshop at least 14 days before the adoption of the final budget, and that it be made available to the public, a superfluous requirement since all such records are automatically public.
City Manager Mike McGlothlin also reminded the mayor that Ingoglia was chastising local governments “without a statutory mandate to do so.” In a challenge no local elected official has dared, McGlothlin said Ingoglia “would probably be better served if he would focus on his core tasks, one of them being the insurance cost that we pay as citizens. I agree with the premise, but I’m not necessarily sure if I agree with the method.”
“I agree,” Miller, the council member, said. “I think it’s kind of like a chainsaw to do surgery kind of methodology there. However, having a baseline of fiscal conservatism is always a good thing.”
No one disputed that: fiscal conservatism has been the adopted mantra of every local government for years. “Once we roll in this budget cycle, nobody up here does not call themselves a conservative,” Norris said, though he also threw a swipe at Theresa Pontieri, Charles Gambaro and Dave Sullivan, who will not be on the council past November: “Three people are leaving. This is a lame duck council. But we need to do the best we can for this city, for this budget cycle coming up.”
They did not take kindly to the characterization, and Pontieri took on Norris’s larger claims about the budget.
“I agree that we should always be trying to achieve rollback,” Pontieri said, before qualifying the goal with a specific example, as opposed to the abstractions that, like Norris’s, have typically reflected government officials’ responses to the Ingoglia claims.
“We had to transfer $2.5 million basically into the impact fee fund to pay for two fire stations because we were not getting enough impact fees,” Pontieri said, referring to the two fire stations under construction in Seminole Woods and on Colbert Lane and Palm Coast Parkway.
Impact fees are the one-time fees builders or developers pay to defray the “impact” of new development on city infrastructure and services. The city rectified the problem when it increased its fire, parks and road impact fees last year, only to be sued by the Flagler Home Builders Association.
“Let me just provide a big picture here for the people that are suing us,” Pontieri said. “We are talking about cuts that detrimentally affect our quality of life, and at the same time, being sued because we are trying to allow development to pay for itself. So just so everybody understands that landscape: It’s very frustrating, if you can’t hear it from my tone of voice. I think we need to look at the bigger picture and see what is really affecting our residents. And honestly, yes, government has grown, but government has grown because of the incredible population influx we got after Covid.”
Palm Coast and Flagler County grew by 25,000 residents between 2020 and 2025, the sixth-fastest growth pace among Florida’s 67 counties.
“When we look at it in that scope, we have actually been very good fiscally, with what we’ve had to deal with,” Pontieri said.
“I don’t think we’re in a bad spot. If we were, we would have been beat up that day,” Norris said.
Nevertheless, Norris has decided to beat up the city himself.
I agree says
The City of Palm Coast could never afford the Southern Recreation Center. Pie in the sky when the sky is falling (failing infrastructure including decaying roadways in residential neighborhoods as well as outdated wastewater treatment plants to name a couple).
Ditto for the ever consuming financial costs of Holland Park.
Build a strong foundation FIRST, and then with any money left over go to pie in the sky fantasies like the Southern Rec Center which serves only a select group of attendees (tennis players and pickleball players).
I see nothing wrong with what the mayor is trying to convey. Perhaps his ability to convey what he means is a detriment but he’s on the right track in my opinion.
As usual, Pontieri loves to hear herself talk yet always ends up saying nothing. Do we really want her on the county commission when she’s only just completing one term of “service” on the Palm Coast City Council? It’s telling she’s ready to bail on the residents of Palm Coast to move on up to the county commission. I’m not voting for her.
Over It says
I think there id a misunderstanding about how government funding works.
Not all of the money a city has can just be used for anything. A lot of it comes from specific sources and has rules attached to it about how it can be spent.
For example, the southern racket center was funded through things like a TDC grant and park impact fees. Those types of funds are restricted, meaning they can only be used for certain things, like building parks or improving park facilities. They can’t just be redirected to roads, utilities, or other unrelated issues and vice versa. Can’t use utility impact fees to build a new pool. If you catch my drift.
So it’s not really like a regular bank account you and I have where you can move money around, spend it, or save it based on what needs we have most. A lot, if not all, of these funds are legally tied to specific uses, whether people realize it or not.
elroy says
The problem with the city is there are too many bosses too many positions with some high salary. I know I worked for the city for 10 years and I’ve seen the races and the positions being made overnight. I remember one year I only received the $.41 pay raise for the year lots of politics and favoritism.
Golf course says
How about cut the anchor (and losses)
Sell the golf course !! That is an albatross that we don’t need
Robjr says
@Golf course says.
Yes the golf course has been a loser since it was first opened.
Save something please says
The golf course was one of the first things built in the city. It has historic value.
The Rec Center absolutely should be considered for sale.
celia says
Those asking to sell the golf course do not live adjacent to it and have their home values, their quality of life and the amenity used by them. Meanwhile you expect us all continue paying for all the parks with splash pad enjoyed by the little ones, and other courses use by our youth to be paid an sustained by us. Golfers pay $65 per round to play is not free like the use of all the other parks and most sport courses that we financially sustain in Palm Coast. So stop the nonsense asking for our amenities to be sold. What do you want Palm Coast becoming another no name town only mentioned by crime and drug business activities other than its amenities that help keep residents busy practicing a healthy sport?
Jim says
I see several of these comments are suggesting cuts to various current expenses that Palm Coast has. So, this is my suggestion to the mayor if he is serious about cutting the budget. Don’t just stand up and say we need to cut the budget by $10M. Certainly not because the “Florida CFO” runs around spreading BS financial numbers. That’s just politician crap. If you’re serious about cutting the budget, do it the way it should be done. Look at each and every item we spend money on and ask (1) do we need it?, (2) what happens if we cut/reduce it?, (3) is this what the citizens want?. That’s how it’s done. If you want to set a target of $10M, state that it’s a target. I don’t know how you can decide you’re spending $10M too much before you even scrutinize the budget and expenditures.
As a general comment, the State of Florida could save almost $200K/year by abolishing that position. He’s probably got a staff as well and there’s opportunity for more savings there.
And, Mayor Norris, you’ve really gotten off to a terrible start as mayor. I doubt you can redeem yourself but, if you really want to do what’s best for Palm Coast, start working with your fellow council members and the city. When you want to make grand political posturing statements like cutting $10M, show up with some facts and a suggested path to get there. This crap of screaming for tax cuts didn’t work for Ed Danko. You might look at his political trajectory and check whether you want to continue down the path to oblivion.
JimboXYZ says
Norris is not entirely wrong. The Southern Rec Center, let’s call it what it really was renamed as, the Opelka whatever the tennis player’s name is. I commented back then it was the USTA getting a free facility from taxpayers for an event on their tour. And low & behold, there’s a annual Palm Coast Open every January-February held there. Anyone have the numbers on what that pays back Palm Coast as a partnership for a cut of the profits ? For Norris to not have the hard numbers or what is portrayed as the real numbers ? That’s because like any quote anyone provides, it’s always that lump sum number with no breakdown of labor, materials & profit for transparency for the Financials of it all. Non-transparent are the budgeting that would indicate where & who are the real winners for being compensated for it all. The rest of us are the duped fools that are expected to pay for it all. And certainly inflation is that lumped reason for why something that benefits so few is the reason why everyone else required to pay for the show pays more.
Over It says
The racket center has been hosting that tournament long before the larger facility was built, so it’s not something new. Events like that bring in visitors, which is a big part of how Florida communities generate revenue.
I’ve had my own frustrations with USTA, especially based on past experiences with their programs with my kids, so I’m not necessarily a fan of how they operate. That said, they do contribute by bringing in tournaments and covering things like prize money, which helps support the local economy. There’s definitely a trade-off there.
At the same time, I wouldn’t want to see them take over management of the facility. Based on what I’ve seen elsewhere, that doesn’t always seem to go well.
Samuel L. Bronkowitz says
These rec centers and parks are being actively used by families and seniors, and are one of the few actual benefits of living in palm coast.
Ray W. says
Curious about one or several possible definitions of fiscal conservatism, I found a site named Conservative Texans for Energy Innovation, a research group self-described as being based on the “conservative principle of common sense, market based solutions that allow fair competition and provide greater access to clean, affordable and reliable energy.”
The group published an updated study, on which there is no listed publication date, of the sums of money Texas county residents and county governments are to receive during the lifetime of already operating solar plants, wind farms and battery storage systems, plus the sums of money that are expected to be received from renewable plants that are already in the construction pipeline.
The researchers provided a number of county by county examples of the fiscal and personal economic possibilities.
For example, Oldham County, population 2,112, located on the northwest Texas border with New Mexico, once had a tax base derived largely from producing oil and natural gas wells. But the fossil fuel industry has long been characterized as boom or bust and the county’s fossil fuels fields had run dry. Prior to buildout of the county’s first wind farm, which according to another source opened in the early-to-mid 2010s, the county’s tax base was valued at $248 million. Its tax rate on assessed value was $0.76 per $100, which rate brought in fiscal revenues of $1.9 million. By 2019, after additional windmills had been erected, the county’s tax base had grown to $342 million. The county’s tax rate on assessed value had been reduced by local government officials to $0.33 per $100, which still brought in fiscal revenues of over $2.5 million. Instead of boom or bust oil and natural gas money paid to the local government, wind farm revenue is steady.
Is this but one example of many possible fiscally conservative, common sense, market based solutions to county government funding?
In 2019, Nolan County, per the report, was home to more than 1,400 windmills, with the first windmill being installed in 1998. Over those 22 years, which I have occasionally argued were, comparatively, a time of low national inflation, the county’s taxable property values grew from $608 million to over $2.2 billion. One county rancher is quoted in the report: “The cows love wind turbines, they walk around them all day and follow the shadows they cast.”
Is this another example of fiscally conservative, common sense, market based solutions to county government funding?
Angelina County, per the report, has one 180 MW solar plant. According to the county’s school superintendent, some of the tax revenue paid by the solar farm was used to pay for a new childcare program for the children of school teachers, a school district decision motivated by hopes of attracting and retaining teachers, a decision necessitated by what was described as a chronic teacher shortage in the school system.
Is this another example of fiscally conservative, common sense, market based solutions to county government funding?
Tom Green County, per the report, is home to a 1,600 acre property that used to bring in $1,700 each year to county coffers, because of agricultural tax exemptions, according to Michael Looney, VP of Economic Development for the San Angelo Chamber of Commerce. A solar farm was built on the property. Now, with the property valued at $240 million, said Mr. Looney, the county receives “millions” in revenue each year. According to the report, Allen Gully used to grow “dry cotton” on his 3,000 acre Tom Green County farm. Mr. Gully persuaded two of his neighbors to partner with him in a 620 acre solar project. Now, in addition to the revenue he receives from the solar farm, he grazes sheep, which he says is more “agriculturally productive” than dry cotton farming.
Is this another example of fiscally conservative, common sense, market based solutions to county government funding?
In Bee County, per the report, in the years since attracting the first of several wind farms, school district officials have cut tax rates by 10%, with expectations of future school district tax cuts as more and more windmills are built.
Is this another example of fiscally conservative, common sense, marker based solutions to county government funding?
According to the group’s research, throughout Texas, both existing and planned solar and wind and battery storage facilities that are already under development will pay into local government treasuries more than $20 billion over the lifetime of the projects. The property owners on which the projects either already exist or will soon come to exist will receive payments of $29.5 billion over the lifetime of the projects.
If the group’s research dates from 2019, as seems likely from the dates listed in the stories, who knows the positive lifetime financial local government impacts from today’s existing or planned renewables projects?
As I so often do, I ask FlaglerLive readers to make whatever they want of the information I gleaned from the several positions published in this study. Accept some or all of them, reject some or all of them, rebut some or all of them, synthesize some or all of them, it doesn’t matter to me. My view, as I have submitted to readers several times, is that the best exercise is in helping other people up.
Yes, I oppose the vengeful, the hateful, the dishonest among us. Vengefulness is not a virtue. Hatred only destroys. Dishonesty degrades everyone it touches. There exists, from my perspective, a moral imperative for everyone to oppose the vengeful and the hateful and the dishonest among us.
I hope that my comments offer valid viewpoints to anyone who will consider them. Not the only viewpoint. Not necessarily the best viewpoint. Not even a winning viewpoint. Just a viewpoint. This, in my estimation, was the impetus behind the founding of our liberal democratic Constitutional republic. Checks and balances, to our founding fathers required robust debate, unfettered debate, uncensored debate. Checks and balances, to them, pitted selfish faction against selfish faction. No one person was ever to gain unlimited political power for an indiscriminate period of time.
I have repeatedly argued that our founders firmly believed that common sense, based on Heaven’s greatest gift to mankind, i.e., the gift of reason, is a process, not a result. If common sense is a process, then each of us have to go through the process each time we reach a decision. If common sense is a process, then no one else can tell us what common sense means. If common sense is a result, then someone else, anyone else, can tell us what common sense means, i.e., we can surrender that greatest gift of reason to others for good or ill.
Skibum says
Every community worth living in that I am aware of offers, in addition to essential services, a range of outdoor recreation and leisure opportunities such as parks, libraries, sports facilities, etc. The quality of life infrastructure that is built into communities such as ours help not only those who live here, but are what draws potential residents and businesses to the area as well.
Oh I know, some people will say “we don’t want growth, we don’t want any more people or development”. Well, that ship has long ago sailed, folks! Get real… Holland Park and it’s features that are offered there for multiple types of recreation and leisure were needed AND wanted by many residents, whether or not you personally like to go there. The same goes for the Southern Recreation Center. I have been there quite a few times, and I don’t play tennis or pickleball, so those who are saying it is only for a select few don’t know what in the world they are talking about!
Do you want to live in a city without any recreation or leisure activities or facilities to enjoy? Just homes, businesses, and concrete? I doubt it. Get over yourselves and realize the more recreational choices we have locally, the better. Everyone can find something you might like if you get away from your computer, walk outside and do something healthy and worthwhile other than constantly complain about everything!
PC Tax man says
Flagler left, as most democrats always do, are against tax cuts. Norris is correct, get rid of the idiotic southern rec center. As far as department budgets go, I’ve seen zero cuts in the 12 years I’ve been here and plenty of lies on tax revenues.
Just look at the debacle of the water treatment plants. How the fixes were paid for, so these idiot politicians can sell you more tax increases. Whether you believe it or not, the wasting of tax dollars in both the county and city is getting ridiculous.
The council knows it, that’s why only 2 of them, including Norris are not returning. What I find really hilarious is Flagler Left telling us what we pay in Taxes. In 2015 my tax bill, county and City was 2356.00. Last year 5849.00. Considering my degree in public administration, I can tell you there’s a ton of waste because the council and county commission never say no to the administrators or department heads. The town manager and county budget head should be demanding a 5% cut, or a zero based budget proposal from them all!
Flagler left is full of crap as usual and just wants to hold onto the liberal spending agendas, especially on the was that the Southern Rec center was from the start!
HammockDude says
Anyone that thinks we should sell the Rec Center, Golf Course, or who laments the operating costs of Holland Park, is not working with a full deck. Those are awesome facilities for our community.
Don’t play tennis or pickleball? Well you probably should. SRC is a world class facility and we are lucky to have it. You can
learn to play for a very affordable price.
Whining about Holland Park? The golf course? Why don’t you ask the thousands of families and children who enjoy it regularly how they feel? If you don’t use them, your opinion is worthless.
To sum it up: our city seems to be run by incompetent people, and, judging from the comments here, a significant percentage of our population is incompetent as well. Apparently, this is what you get when your core population consists of low to middle class low-educated retirees who just sit around and complain.
Yes, we need an improved water treatment plant, some better roads, and more businesses here. But cutting recreational services is not the fix. Attracting more high paying jobs and working families is the way forward. We moved our family and business here due to the affordability and amazing features that Palm Coast offers (as did many of us). But it is disconcerting to see what lies beneath when you peel back layers of the onion. And while we are at it, let’s touch on all of the crazy crime and drugs that go on here, which is directly a product of those who’ve lived here the past 10-20-30 years. And this is why we do actually need the massive police and fire budget that we have. Thanks guys!
Shaking my head says
Orthopedic surgeons are raking in the big bucks treating senior citizens who’ve gotten on the pickleball bandwagon. It’s not a benign sport.
By the way “HammockDude”, how long have you lived in Flagler County?
This commenter is world travelled with bachelors in accounting, masters environmental science and a doctorate in healthcare (primary care). Don’t talk down to the masses.
Some of you transplants give the distinct impression that everyone here is beneath you in intelligence, education and general socioeconomic status. Most of the people here don’t like to flaunt what they offer. There are many many highly educated and highly successful people here in Flagler County.
It must be hard for you to live and interact amongst the “low to middle-class low-educated retirees” here in Flagler County.
Your comment is very telling as to how you view yourself and others. Plenty of people have started and run successful businesses AND are very active in things other than pickleball. You’re not special.
Maybe I’ll see you in the emergency room sometime when (not if) you’ve developed a pickleball injury.
Samuel L. Bronkowitz says
I mean, he’s right. Palm coast has invested heavily in its parks and rec centers and it may surprise you to discover that other than pickleball, there are *lots* of programs run out of the rec centers that benefit seniors and kids. Looking at just this summer, the southern rec center hosts a firefighters summer camp for kids, caregiver support groups, zumba, yoga, dancing, and F.I.T classes, tennis, and pickleball camps.
While I agree that pickleball injuries are the latest great trend that keeps ortho clinics in the black, I don’t feel that engaging an an argumentum ad verecundiam with some rando on the internet about pickleball really matters here. The more pressing issue is that the general conservative push is to eliminate anything that the poors or middle class enjoys at the behest of the state, e.g. public education, libraries, rec centers, and playgrounds. That’s ultimately Norris’ goal here, because he’s a buffoon.
Over It says
Look, no one enjoys paying taxes. But if I’m going to pay them, I want that money going toward things that actually benefit the community.
That includes everything: roads, fire, police, parks, libraries, and community spaces. All of those services are part of quality of life. Without them, places like Palm Coast wouldn’t be livable or enjoyable.
I want spaces where kids can be outside instead of on their phones, and where families, including my own kids and grandkids, can spend time together without expecting to pay a premium cost to do so. Those things matter just as much as the basic services people tend to focus on.
To me, it’s all connected. The services keep things running, and the amenities make it a place people actually enjoy living in.
I don’t think everything needs to be privatized or turned into something expensive just to be used. I wouldn’t want to feel like every time I needed help (fire, police, roads) or wanted to spend time in a public space, I’ll get an invoice in the mail the next week. The loss of the “third place” is a huge problem in the younger generations. Our tax dollars needs to preserve spaces like this, even if it comes at a “loss” in the budget. These amenities shouldn’t run like a business.
If someone doesn’t see the value in that, it might be worth getting out and actually using these spaces. It can really change your perspective.
Gail says
It’s about quality of life. We can all enjoy the trails, parks, tennis and golf courses that Flagler County and Palm Coast offers. For a fair price, or free for the public to use.
I don’t play tennis, or pickle ball. I don’t golf.
But I am okay with my taxes paying for others to play.
Villein says
I think Mayor Norris hates the City, or maybe he hates everyone? You have to have employees to run the city. You have to have recreation or this pathetic excuse for a community is just an internment camp for elderly New Jersians.
Cost of living has been crazy. That’s not a political statement, it’s just reality. My tax bill is not what keeps me up at night when I think about how expensive everything has gotten as pointed in the article- it’s a non-issue.
If you don’t want to have parks, or police and fire, or any other services- that’s going to cost a lot more in devalued property.
What problem is mayor Norris trying to solve? Or did he just want to be the center of attention? Pathetic.
celia says
Palm Coast without its affordable amenities and sports courts will become another dull ridden with crime and worse drug problems town! Now this Tuesday want to let go on management of our PHGC…or worst agree to sell it! The golf course YTD is in black so if ain’t broke don’t fix it. The city management is doing fine with Dennis Radican running it so far! Our golf course manage by the cuty also creates local jobs just make sure the good work is done. Do not rent or lease any of our amenities or sports centers they make for excellent healthy activities and are not supposed other than try to break even, if can. Also under city management secures local jobs.
Mayor please aim to cut in other areas of financial waste …like over inflated management payroll in areas that fail. TY for trying.