Conditioned on design alterations to address serious concerns about drainage, the Flagler County Commission late Monday evening approved a 56-home subdivision on the barrier island, some 1,000 feet south of Marineland’s town limits and south of the River to Sea Preserve. The subdivision, to be managed by a property owners’ association, will be called Scenic Cove.
The 19-acre site is on the west side of State road A1A just south of already-developed Deerwood Street and Beachside Drive, two parallel parcels north of tightly-developed Hidden Treasure Drive. It stretches from A1A to the Intracoastal. All but four of the lots will be 50 feet wide, oriented north to south on the two sides of street on lots of approximate depths of 125 feet, or one-seventh an acre. (That compares with 100-foot-wide lots in Maritime Estates to the north, and is a reflection of developers increasingly favoring smaller lots in response to market demands.) Four lots oriented east to west at the western edge of the development, around a cul de sac, will front a small vegetation preserve.
There was sharp opposition to Scenic Cove’s drainage and environmental plan, but after a 70-minute hearing, the commission approved the project, with conditions, 5-0.
It was a much easier time for Ken Belshe, the developer of the 335-home Gardens subdivision on John Anderson Highway that the commission approved in 2020, but that, facing continuing opposition from Flagler Beach and John Anderson residents, had to clear several hurdles in court before construction started in earnest. But Belshe had to ease the way to approval by assuring commissioners–and assuring Commissioner Andy Dance in particular–that concerns were heard and will be addressed. Dance at one point seemed unwilling to approve the [proposal, though he ended up making the motion to do so, with his conditions.
Dance and residents raised deep concerns about flooding and drainage, with recent history in mind.
The developer’s consultant, Clint Smith, noted that “the first 40 percent or so was pretty well inundated by the flooding from Hurricane Matthew” in 2016, when the ocean in parts washed over the barrier island and devastated vegetation there. An easement along the north and south property lines would pick up water that would “run into the backyard or could run off from the adjoining property and get it to the stormwater system,” Smith said, dumping into the Intracoastal. To protect against flooding, homes will have to be built on a base elevation of at least one foot above the road level. Smith compared the “character” of the streetscaping on Beach Haven Drive, following “a common architectural theme.”
Still, Dance was not convinced that the drainage system will be sufficient, or that the lots should include the drainage easements, which would narrow buildable areas. And he pressed for a tree survey before development, especially the way the drainage system is designed. “We see what happened at Beachwalk,” he said, referring to an intensive 50-home development the commission approved in 2019 in the Hammock. “By the time you put in houses on a 50 foot lot there’s nothing left. There’s no room for a tree. Even on the property line, you have to have drainage going forward and back. The reality of it is nothing’s going to be left on a 50 foot lot and the tree survey needs to be done now before the clearing goes through and we find out that nothing’s there, because then we can’t replant based on the mitigation.”
“So I don’t see this as ready for approval tonight,” Dance said at first, pressing the point about drainage and its effects on neighboring properties. “I don’t think we want to end up with a Marineland Acres on those two private developments to the north,” he said, referring to the flood-plagued subdivision the county has spent years and millions of dollars to address. “I think at this stage, not just the fact that you can say the [water management] district’s going to make sure that doesn’t happen, but for those homeowners they need a reassurance at this stage that that’s not going to happen. And I think that bit of extra design work or presentation to help alleviate their minds that they’re going to be held harmless, is helpful for us moving this forward.”
Smith said the more specific drainage design would be clearer at the next step in the development process, when the final site plan is submitted to the commission. “At this level right now, without knowing if we even have a project or not, we’re not going to spend the money to do final design, it just isn’t feasible to do that,” Smith said.
“But we’re held hostage to the language within the [planned unit development] that we approved tonight regardless of that site plan that you’re talking about next time,” Dance said. “So if everybody here is 100 percent confident that they agree with every word that’s in that PUD, and all of our comments here are reflected in that PUD, then they can approve it. I’m not confident yet. I think this needs more time working with staff to make sure that every bit of our concerns–we haven’t heard three other commissioners yet–that all of our concerns are going to be reflected in the in the PUD.”
Dance ended up conceding: the tree survey would be added “at the time of the PUD site plan,” Smith said, even as it was left unclear whether Dance’s point about setting easements back from property lines would be part of the design. “I just think if we if we do the trees and the five-foot setbacks, I just think you’re going to come back with a significantly different drawing than what you’re showing us,” Dance said. “And to the people that are out there, the drainage issues after tonight, this isn’t the final step. This is approving the PUD and the language that’s in there. They’re going to come back with a more detailed PUD design document, and then the preliminary plat which is the final engineering construction drawings. Those will both come back to us at the next step. They have a lot of engineering to do and the commission is aware of some of the other drainage issues we’ve had in the other neighborhoods, which is what we want to avoid.”
Dance was explaining what the developer must demonstrate to put the commissioners’ minds at ease when Commissioner Joe Mullins interrupted him, calling for a vote. “You’re giving a lot of direction, and we haven’t even voted on this,” Mullins said.
“I was talking to the public,” Dance said.
“I feel like we’re micromanaging here a little bit. And that’s not appropriate,” Mullins said.
“It’s what we do,” Dance said.
“That’s what you do,” Mullins snapped. “That’s not what everybody else does.”
“It’s what we’re supposed to do.” Dance corrected.
“I disagree with that,” Mullins said.
Mullins was, in fact, wrong, as he often is in matters of governance and regulatory roles (or when he talks about swales, as he did Monday): especially with a planned unit development project, it is the role of commissioners to ensure that the county’s–and residents’–interests are protected and balanced along with those of the developers’. Mullins, who does not usually show much familiarity with the thick background material that comes with every such proposal (Scenic Cove’s adds up to 136 pages), has been more inclined to get votes over and done with, his allegiance primarily with developers’ wishes.
Other commissioners who presumably know better could have come to Dance’s aid. Instead, Commissioners Donald O’Brien, Greg Hansen and Dave Sullivan kept mum, as if still loath to challenge the lame-duck Mullins (he will be off the commission in early November). It was a member of the public who singled out Dance to say: ‘Thank you for standing up for us.”
Dance made the motion to approve the application, as long as a tree survey was conducted and a five-foot buffer was built into the design between the drainage easement and the property lines.
Residents’ concerns only amplified Dance’s. Even if at the expense of a lot or two, increasing lot width to 60 feet and increasing drainage width easements would “mitigate some of the concerns that the public and neighbors have on the property,” Joe Reitzer of Christopher Court in Palm Coast told the commissioners, echoing other public concerns. (“Increasing the lot size is critical,” another resident said, if only to increase permeable ground for water to draine through.)
“These are concerns that really bother us,” another resident said. “If the houses are so close together we can’t have a drain, now where are we going have the power people go in to service the pole?” He imagined floodwaters turning his neighborhood into a lake. “I know you fallows wanting to build them and I’m not against any kind of building anything, but I don’t want it destroying the property or making it to the point that I can’t live there when it rains.” He said the plan was not ready for approval. A Marineland Acre talked of her own experience with flooding over the years, and not wanting to see the same issues plague another subdivision. “I just want you to take into consideration the water that these people are going to be dumping on other people,” she said.
James Fisk of the Flagler Beach Museum addressed the “pre-historic activity that was all along that area,” and the Timucua and other Indian activity that took place there. “An archaeological study will not cost that much for the particular area that we’re concerned about, which is down by the intercoastal,” Fisk said.
Belshe–a local developer whose capacity for compromise was in evidence throughout The Gardens’ saga–sought to address Dance’s and the residents’ worries.
“We hear your concerns and we certainly will address those,” Belshe said. “Certainly we are required by state law and other laws probably federal as well, to not push water off onto property that we don’t own. All of that will be addressed in the in the engineering process, and we do not want to be bad neighbors. We don’t want to cause any of these kinds of problems.” He pledged that there would be “a lot more granular presentation” ahead, and even agreed to an archeological study. “I don’t want to get our project shut down in the middle of construction because we didn’t figure out what was out there first. So I have agreed to that.” He also agreed to a tree survey as Dance asked.
But he said by building a PUD, the development is already taking away “a lot of the developable portion of the property and would create a financial hardship if we had to widen them out,” he said. “And frankly, you know, we’re building beautiful homes on 50 foot lots. In fact, in Marina Del Palma, we just sold a house in there for $1 million. That’s on the 50 foot lot. And that happens throughout the county. So anyway, I heard your comments. We will take those into consideration.”
The application was for a rezoning from residential and limited commercial uses to single-family residential homes as a planned unit development. The change lowers the allowable density (from seven homes per acre to three) and eliminates the possibility of any commercial development. It also lowers expected traffic generated by the new homes from nearly 700 daily trips to 528. The subdivision would increase the area’s population by 138 people.
Samuel and Betty Hatcher of Boynton Beach have owned one of the parcels in one form or another since 1981, when they and another couple bought it for $251,000. The property appraiser gives it a just market value of $1 million today. The owner of the second, parallel parcel is Hunjan LLC., owned by T. Kaur Hunjan of British Columbia, Canada, and represented by the the Chiumento Law firm in Palm Coast. The parcel is also valued at $1 million by the property appraiser.
Significant upland Oak Hammock habitat borders the Intracoastal Waterway. A minimum of 10 percent of existing vegetation will be preserved. “The native vegetation preservation area will be located within a dedicated tract along the westernmost portion of the Property where the most mature hardwood trees on the Property exist,” the agreement states. Each home is required to provide at least one tree per 3,000 square feet of lot area, not including road and infrastructure areas.
The four lots at the western edge will, like the rest of the development, have access to a shared boardwalk-like path and dock by the intracoastal to limit environmental impacts. There will be a 40-foot buffer between the subdivision and A1A.
According to a Sept. 1 letter by Dennis Clark, chair of the Scenic A1A Pride committee, Belshe “committed that every effort will be made to honor the following commitments”:
• Provide a kiosk with Old Coast Guard Road historical information near the beach access.
• Conduct an Archaeological Study since this area is rich with artifacts.
• State that wildlife corridors will be provided in the native vegetation area and around the stormwater ponds (not blocked by walls or fences) in perpetuity.
• Provide a recreational/picnic area near the ponds.
• Work with Scenic A1A Pride on the entryway and what the landscape buffer will look like.
• Notice to lot buyers that they must preserve or replace 40 percent of tree caliper removed. (Caliper refers to the diameter of a tree’s trunk.)
• Specify Oak “street trees” requirement as one per home. 25’ setbacks allow for this.
• Sidewalks will be designed and engineered and built when the homes are constructed. The agreement specifies that the sidewalks will be five foot wide concrete, built on both sides of the internal road and cul-de-sac, to provide access between homes and amenities, and for access and recreation.
In a telling side note that will likely become a standard part of all development agreements from here on, the PUD document includes this wording: “The Developer shall grant the County an easement over its property lying East of the existing dune line for beach
renourishment and repair. The form of the easement shall be agreed to by the parties as a condition of Preliminary Plat approval.” Securing those easements has been an epic battle for the county in Flagler Beach, where the Army Corps of Engineers ie preparing to rebuild 2.6 miles of dunes south of the pier. The county had to secure the easements one by one from property owners. One owner is still holding out.
Bobbi says
Stupid!!!
Kimberly Yates says
It is totally INSANE !! That ocean will be rolling right across A1A in no time anyway !! It’s a Barrier Island for God’s sake leave it alone
Wow says
Fix the dam drainage on my street first. This makes me ill.
cgm says
wtf is wrong with them
Bushhog1 says
IN FLAGLER COUNTY “WHATEVER THE DEVELOPERS WANT, THE DEVELOPERS GET” !
Robin says
It is good to see flexibility on the part of the developer. The PUD would be better served by eliminating 2-3 lots overall to permit a 60’ lot width. The cost of eliminating those lots would be dispersed over the remaining lots and would improve the overall affect of the development.
5’ side setbacks should not become an new normal.
Mark says
All that talk about drainage and not a mention of permeable driveways? Seems to tight for 56 homes on 50 foot property widths, guessing these will be narrow tall houses with flooding problems from the day they are built.
Time is of the essence! says
Quick!! Im on Google Earth looking at Palm Coast and theres a spot of green left, Send Alfin and his merry band of developers with their bulldozers!!! Scrape away all the foliage and mature trees to bare earth and lay down asphalt and sod and plant a couple non indigenous saplings that won’t provide shade for 20 years.
Ron says
What’s wrong with O’Brien, Sullivan and Hansen? Why are you so complacent with Joe Mullins?
Once again Mullins was wrong. You should be supporting a Commissioner that actually knows what the requirements are. These three should not be re elected. Hansen enjoy your last stint.
Is this new development use for single families or is it’s use going to be transient? Buyer beware!!! Do not purchase a home next to a dwelling that will be used as a transient public lodging establishment if you plan on living in it full time or using it seasonal. Make sure that these documents state that any rental have a minimum of 7 months or longer to a single family. In addition make sure there are occupancy restrictions in place.
If Mullins is involved in rushing approvals you certainly should have your radar on high alert.
Bob Gore says
Shocker
LDRM says
You can’t fix stupid!!!
Jane Kranz says
Absolutely no common sense !!! Does ANYONE within any branch of Flagler county government have a damn working brain!! Ugh- disgusted!
Laurel says
Didn’t I just comment recently that the commissioners are hell bent on destroying the maritime hammock? Look at all the live oaks that will be bulldozed out, listen to them as they crack in the process, the very oaks that will wind break future storms, so brace yourself if you’re inland. Think of the turtles, birds and maritime hammock specific species, but developers and commissioners, who are without souls and only worship money, have no interest in thinking of such things.
What a joke. Please explain to me, that when the tide is up to the top of the seawalls, and often over the seawalls, how does the rain drain into the ICW? Do these dopes understand that it doesn’t, that it drains in the opposite direction? Do they care that by raising the ground elevation a foot of all these new homes, that they will still flood and drain to the next subdivision? No, they don’t. They just talk “mitigation,” which is like exchanging baby formula with antifreeze. They need to satisfy the concerned citizens that all will be okay, make the sale and haul ass.
The greed of these people is like tunnel vision, with no end in sight.
Brent says
Build build build!! We want out town to look just like Jacksonville and Orlando!
Ray says
This can’t be real? Unbelievable.
Shark says
What more would you expect when you have realtors running this county !!!
Kat says
I don’t think there’s any set of circumstances under which the present commissioners would vote down a development. Might I also add that I believe that four out of five of them either never developed gonads or had them removed at some point in their life. Thank you, commissioner dance, for trying to represent the best interest and will of your constituents.
The ORIGINAL land of no turn signals says
Of coarse!!! Rubber stamp crew.
Joy Massie McGrew says
this and every other development in flagler county that allows ANY water runoff to drain to the intracoastal waterway is and will continue to cause those who live on the intracoastal waterway a MUCH GREATER CHANCE OF FLOODING…every development should HAVE to retain 100 % of their water….LARGER LOTS, MUCH LARGER RETENSION PONDS, LESS IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AND MAINTAIN THE NATIVE VEGETATION. ALL of the Oaks along the river should be protected…the more vegetation you remove the more run-off you create…Thank you Andy for being a voice of reason….stay strong and remember, YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT THE WHOLE, NOT JUST THE FEW.
oldtimer says
why stop there? pave over everything then complain when the houses flood
Joe says
It’s clear that the developers are Running the show. Has the commission ever voted down a residential project?There are almost 1,000 homes for sale in Flagler County and very few buyers. It’s foolish to keep approving more housing when the area is on the verge of a housing supply crisis. The Commission and the developers are going to flood the market with too many houses, which is starting to cause the prices to fall. They will be responsible for the housing bubble to burst. When your house value falls off the cliff keep that in mind on election day. We must hold those responsible and send them packing.
James says
NIMBY NIMBY NIMBY that’s all. The neighbors wanted bigger lots to pump up their own property values..or they don’t care about property rights. Either way, the BOCC was right to unanimously approve. They developer did everything asked and then some, down to preserving trees.
Hell, I watched the meeting, the current zoning would have allowed for commercial on our A1A scenic route. A tattoo parlor perhaps? This was a good compromise. Reasonable people understand this, NIMBY never will.
Laurel says
James: I have a feeling your back yard isn’t here. Almost all people who cry “NIMBY” don’t live in the area that is of concern. Not to mention “NIMBY” has nothing to do with the flora and fauna of a maritime hammock. Look at the aerial and tell us just how many large, live oaks are going to be “saved” by developing houses on 50′ lots with five foot setbacks? A small tree here, and a small tree there?
P.S. A whole lot of neighbors, on their big lots, were already here. Some for generations. They weren’t interested in pumping up values, they were interested in living in a quiet, small town area, where most everyone knows each other. Now, it’s all strangers and transients. People who cry “NIMBY” and have no care or concern for the barrier island’s demise.
Jane Gentile- Youd says
I hope
Commissioner Dance’s requirements are clearly specified in the final approval of these homes otherwise they are meaningless and unenforceable. We never get to see the final written approvals do we? If elected I will propose that all final zoning written approvals go back to the commissioners for a final ‘OK stamp”.
Laurel says
JGY: How about if you’re elected, you’ll consider saving the maritime hammock, and stop its destruction?
Doug says
It’s proven time and time again that every politician talks an excellent game to win over voters, but when push comes to shove, they crumble. So why should you be any different to make anyone believe you?
Deb says
American GREED !!! Selfish ignorance. Charge them with the destruction this will cause. Hold them accountable,long term !!!
JTL says
Please read the 10/15/22 article by Craig Pittman that is published in Flagler Live.. (“Development on Florida’s Barrier Islands Made Ian Evacuation Virtually Impossible.”) It could have been written word for word about Flagler County! There is no winning for our county the way our Planning Board and County Commissioners are tied in with builders. Yes, I agree lots should be developed, but there is a bigger picture that includes safety and infrastructure and saving our beautiful barrier island. Enjoy what we have now, because it isn’t going to be here much longer.
Brian says
“Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results.” – Albert Einstein. They can’t seem to see what happened down south. And here in 2016. If we pave every square inch or build on it there won’t be a drainage problem. Just make sure it is higher in the middle of the state. May be time to vote them ALL out.
Edith Campins says
“They paved paradise and put up a parking lot”. Notice how politicians and developers never talk about traffic, the impact on the roads, etc.
Doug says
Here we go again. Despite the “deep drainage concerns,” the development was approved. Whose pocket was filled with money to get this approved? If people cannot see our local government’s corruption, we all have a problem. I call BS.
Doug says
I’ve lived on our family’s Hammock property since the late 70s, and we’ve never had issues with flooding until the extensive development of this area began. Now, after any heavy rain, water stands in the yard for days, becoming a breeding ground for mosquitos. Unfortunately, our local politicians (you know who you are) have caved to developers and turned a blind eye to the longtime residents. Shameful.
Linda says
Maybe the term lengths of elected commissioners should be reduced to weed out the ones who don’t really have our best interests in mind. Andy Dance is a great example of someone who actually has foresight and common sense. While we’re at it, maybe we can make it a rule that the commissioners actually look at the people at the podium when they speak. I’m so tired of seeing shiny bald heads. Haha!
What Else Is New says
All but one person on the Flagler County Planning Board is a realtor. The Flagler County Commissioners are beholden to realtors and have always followed the rule of building without restraint. Our beautiful Hammock is losing it’s charm all because of these irresponsible uncaring money grubbing individuals. Why do we keep voting for these people? There needs to be a change in the makeup of the planning board and we need to vote in commissioners with conscience.
Dee says
It’s disgusting what the greedy developers have done to Flagler Beach!
It was meant to stay small town thats why people came to visit. Palm Coast was meant for developing so Flagler could stay small town. No thoughts given to the strain on the power grid, drainage and sewers. Let alone evacuating the barrier island.
Keep it up the ocean will swallow the barrier island and join with the ICW.