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Palm Coast Council Approves Mayor’s Weekly Radio Infomercial After All, and More

| March 8, 2017

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Palm Coast Mayor Milissa Holland will soon be on the air weekly, Saturday mornings. (© FlaglerLive)

Radio’s most famous mayoral moments go back to 1945, when Fiorello LaGuardia, New York’s mayor, told his listeners to gather the children around the set so he could read them the funnies: newspaper delivery drivers had gone on strike, innumerable readers were in withdrawal, and LaGuardia, ever the showman, had the solution. “Let’s see what Dick Tracy is doing,” the Little Flower—as LaGuardia was known—started off, flipping through papers and amplifying his voice and legend.


The mayor had been delivering his weekly “Talk To the People” on WNYC, the city-owned radio station, since 1941, drawing commanding audiences every Sunday at a time when newspapers and radio were the dominant media—and LaGuardia was among the nation’s most famous politicians: On the air or off, LaGuardia was as unscripted as he was unpredictable

Late Tuesday evening, the Palm Coast City Council set aside controversy, qualms, bean-counting and Steve Nobile and voted 4-1 to have Mayor Milissa Holland host a half-hour weekly infomercial, paid for by the city, on WNZF and one of its sister radio stations. The show will air at 9:30 a.m. on Saturdays, and will be a paid block by the city, at $250 a show, or $10,000 for 40 weeks.

Council member Bob Cuff moved to approve the show as well as an alternative proposal put forth by the city administration. The alternative was to entail a podcast produced by city staff and disseminated on the city’s electronic media platforms, rather than a radio show hosted by the mayor. That alternative also included buying $8,000 worth of advertising. That portion of the alternative was not addressed in Tuesday’s motion, but presumably would not be on top of, but rather part of, the spending for Holland’s infomercial, called “Discover Palm Coast.” (Brad West, a Palm Coast social media specialist, had written council members about better exploiting Facebook Live to do Q&A sessions featuring council members and staff, and to produce short, easily shared behind-the-scenes informative videos.)

The show controversy unraveled when the council discovered late last month that Holland and City Manager Jim Landon had developed the show’s concept (after Flagler Broadcasting General Manager David Ayres had proposed it to Holland) out of view of council members until a news article detailed the proposal, less than a week from when Holland was set to air her first show. That caused the administration to pause and come up with an alternative. By Tuesday, and in sharp contrast with their discussion a week earlier, council members’ silence betrayed more boredom than excitement over the issue as they hurried to a vote. “Thank God,” Nobile said when the mayor moved on to the next item on the agenda.


Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia Reads the Funny Papers (1941)

Nobile had been the only ardent opponent of the concept, though every other council member but Holland, in turn, had had some trepidation over the show: there was concern that it would be sheer advertising for the city, that it would be too frequent, that it would be nothing but promotional “propaganda,” and that it would be difficult to gauge whether it’s being listened to or not: radio audiences are notoriously difficult to measure, and Ayres himself could not provide hard facts on listenership other than to predict that “thousands” would dip into the show at one point or another, without necessarily listening through the half hour.

The turning point was when council member Heidi Shipley declared herself a convert, after initial resistance. Shipley: “My thing would be if we did it, it might bring some business that hears you talking, that likes what they hear, likes what they hear going on here,” Shipley said. “I was originally against it, but the more I think about what it can achieve, and we can always after a year if we don’t like it we can say it didn’t work, hopefully there’s some way to gauge whether it actually did something for us. But there are people at home that just listen to the radio, and might just get out and do one of the games or one of the activities because they heard it on there.”

Nobile again spoke of his concerns. “Where did this new obsession with the radio come from?” he asked, though he also conceded: “If it’s proven successful, I’m all good with it.” But he said he preferred the city devoted its energies on in-house videos and podcasts, spending money to draw listeners to those productions.

The discussion that led to the vote Tuesday evening could have filled a half-hour show, though it was taken up mostly by residents addressing the council, most of whom endorsed the idea. “This idea is amazing,” Ed Fuller, who runs a political forum of his own and has run campaigns for local Republicans, said. “It’s imaginative, it’s creative, it’s innovative, and I want to hear what’s going on.”

The show will be taped in advance so will have no call-ins. The extent to which it will be scripted is unclear. Landon referred to a scripted show several times last week, but not Tuesday evening, replacing that word with a more innocuous description of how and whether Holland’s message will be controlled by the administration.

“The radio show will take very little staff time and no additional cost because it really is just putting together a list of subjects, bullet points, things that we do all the time for newsletters and week in review, all those things,” Landon said.

Holland herself did not address the issue one way or the other–she’s been going through a harrowing week because of her daughter’s health issues–but spoke at length of her view of the show in an interview this afternoon, and dismissed suggestions that the show would be “scripted.”

“This will be pre-recorded, so it won’t be live, and I see that as very different from beings scripted,” Holland said. “I’m not known for reading speeches, I’m not known for just going in and following a script. I believe I have enough knowledge of local government subject matter and state government subject matter that allows me to have an open conversation with whoever I’m interviewing.”

But Holland said she’ll draw the line at inserting her opinion on the air, “other than asking pointed questions” of her guests, “to help the public wrap their hands around complex issues.”

“I do respect the council as far as the fact that we are a legislative body, and I do very much respect their opinions on different subject matters and issues that are brought forward before council,” the mayor continued, “but I don’t see that as necessary, as part of this concept.” Holland sees the half hour as “an extension of what I do out in the community each and every day, doing presentations, having conversations with residents. I get asked questions all the time, and what can be frustrating in our job as local elected officials is we are dealing with very complex issue. They’re not necessarily black and white, there are a lot of gray areas in between. The more time I can get information out there that helps them understand the issue in its entirety, the better is the conversation that we’re having.”

In other words, don’t expect LaGuardia-style radio, necessarily—although how the show might evolve over at least 40 installments is anybody’s guess–and the “talking points” the manager will feed the mayor could theoretically borrow a page from LaGuardia’s show: derision of local media was an occasional LaGuardia specialty: In an April 1942 show, LaGuardia ripped into the New York Times over an editorial that criticized one of his appointees, and over one of the paper’s headlines. The mayor had been at war with City Hall reporters, with whom he hadn’t spoken since the beginning of the year, and urged his radio listeners to “watch the radio for complete and accurate information.” (Some of the “Talk To the People” episodes are available online, as with this March 25, 1945 show, which WNYC cautions “may contain language which is no longer politically or socially appropriate,” a caution that could have applied to last week’s city council meeting.)

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28 Responses for “Palm Coast Council Approves Mayor’s Weekly Radio Infomercial After All, and More”

  1. Dave says:

    This is a disaster, city officials broadcasting? Are u kidding me? And I have to pay for this?

  2. Linda Johnsen says:

    I am appalled that $10,000 could not be used in some other way.
    Really.. Homeless people, hungry folks, a real transit system, a
    way to keep. STREETLIGHTS everywhere…

    FPL charges a crazy amount for lights.. Let’s just say that at $20.00
    per light for already in the ground posts, there could be 500 new lights.

    Really think people will listen to a talk show instead of social media..

    Think twice.

  3. Ken Dodge says:

    If Her Honor promises to read the funnies on the air I just may tune it.

  4. Freddy says:

    Once again council goes against the will of the of citizens. Remember them next election.

  5. Rich H. says:

    How about some street lighting in Residencial areas, instead of padding the pockets of a commercial business courtesy of our tax dollars. Is that to much to ask?

  6. tulip says:

    I watched that meeting on tv. Simply put, with the exception of Nobile who had the courage to stand by his original thoughts, the rest of them caved in.
    First Landon’s raise and now the Holland radio show. What’s the next “yes” vote, the multi family development that was opposed by a couple of hundred residents that in the neighborhood that would be affected?

  7. Knightwatch says:

    A good move. It’s her job. let her do it. Steve Nobile is a radical tea party Republican. Hi, and those like him, seek only to disrupt. I’m proud of the Council for voting over him. Nobile’s a prime target for “recall” in the next election.

  8. RayD says:

    Yes radio is cutting edge media. This is a day that will live in infamy. Radio Free Palm Coast! Also brings to mind that SNL skit with Baldwin and the two ladies.

  9. Sw says:

    So WE dont want it YOU ALL do it anyway typical of jerk water PC

  10. starryidgirl says:

    Did the park on Florida Park Drive open yet?

  11. palmcoaster says:

    Business as usual too bad we are forced to foot the bill!
    Do 4 in this PC Council hear their constituents?

  12. steve miller says:

    They just had to spend the money one way or another didn’t they?
    $10,000 here $10,000 there and before you know it were talking about
    some real money!……I guess the money was burning a hole in their collective pockets
    and they just couldn’t find any other possible place to spend it!

  13. Sw says:

    Ps….wont be tuning in to THE SHOW
    Pss Dont expect another vote from me any of you

  14. George says:

    Well seeing as how it’s “scripted propaganda,” taxpayers just paid $10,000 to hear city officials talk about what a amazing jobs they are doing and what grand plans they have. I would have listened to it, had it been a podcast. However, I’m not going to get up and 9:30 am and sit in my car to listen to this now.

  15. Florida voter says:

    Please tell me this proposal includes posting the weekly address on the PC city website! It would be best if the postings were broken into smaller blocks addressing specific issues (business news, community events, etc).

    Seriously: radio? 30 minutes? That might be a good model 20 years ago, but not by today’s standards. Who would listen to 30 minutes straight of Mayor Holland? Again: 30 minutes? YouTube doesn’t even have 30 SECOND unskippable commercials any more.

  16. palmcoaster says:

    I rather they will use my taxes for something like this ramp link below for our competitive young teens and young men in this county and to be placed in one of our bodies of water “free of gators of course”.
    http://www.visitcalifornia.com/dream365tv/bob-burnquists-floating-skate-ramp

  17. Common Sense says:

    This is a waste of money. No one will be listening. There are many more productive ways to spend this money.
    Btw, I notice McDonald has reared his head again in defense of his fellow RRR member Nobile. There was no excuse for Nobile’s behaviour, none. And how does he know Klufas whispered anything? Was he on the dais? Or did his buddy tell him in an effort to excuse his bad behaviour?

  18. PC Voter says:

    Just self-promoting. I’m sure P. C. would use this tax payer $ more efficiently.

  19. palmcoaster says:

    @ (NO) Common Sense. I am not Dennis Mc…and sure also defended Nobile as well, as was just the fair thing to do. Thank you Denis for your stand for Nobile if you did. Also I am not any RRR either and I am just a “Real Common Sense”.

  20. Wishful Thinking says:

    Thank goodness I don’t live in Palm Coast! A frivolous waste of tax dollars. Besides iot’s lots more productive (and sometimes very entertaining to see government in action in person)….a least they gotta listen to your ‘two cents’ unlike this proposed monologue costly stage show.

  21. woody says:

    Anybody reallllly surprised?Street lights no money,radio show money well spent,FLAME ON.

  22. suewho says:

    Really with all the real things needed in this town we have to put up with the frivolous spending of more tax dollars. No call ins? They don’t want to hear from the community, they just want to hear themselves talk. I’m disgusted. And no the James Holland Park is still closed. I watch every day as our new construction company lounge under the over priced trees and shoot the shit. I’m going to start taking pictures of the lack of production and start posting them on social media.

  23. RAKA says:

    8:30 on Sunday morning?

  24. Anonymous says:

    What a way to waste money! CANCEL THIS NONSENSE!
    Spend it on STREET LIGHTS like citizens ask for; instead we get a fancy park and community center that only benefit some. This seems EGO DRIVEN. Probably Ms. Holland’s idea?

    I’m sure not to many people will be excited to listen, with better things to do! Old Timey…… I will not be listening, nor do I know anyone that will. I’ll be sure to vote against you MONEY-WASTING Bunch! DON’T WASTE OUR MONEY….you should honor more of what citizens want; not what certain people want!!!

    500 New Lights would be money well spent; it doesn’t mean much to you that people get killed on the dark stretches of roads? You have very POOR PRIORITIES!! This is so sickening and uncaring of you as City Officials. You are not representing the ‘WILL OF THE PEOPLE’ very well. VOTE YOU OUT –BYE

  25. Thomas says:

    Our City Council loves to waste money.
    They believe that the $ will assure them favorable coverage…what a waste.WNZF has been in the County and city pockets for years.

    • FlaglerLive says:

      Thomas, it’s difficult to claim that WNZF is in the pocket of either city or county government when they regularly air discussions critical of both and when in this case the station aired, uncensored, a blunt commentary by this site’s editor calling for the cancellation of the radio show, at a potential cost of $10,000 to the radio station. If you have contrary evidence, we’re all ears.

  26. Lazaruis says:

    WHAT A WASTE OF OUR MONEY .
    ALOT BETTER THINGS TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON .
    I WOULD THINK THIS SHOW WILL BE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR . ONLY LOCALS WOULD LISTEN TO THIS STATION INSTEAD OF OTHER MEDIA THAT REACHES ALOT MORE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT ACTUALLY COME HERE AND SPEND SOME TIME AND MONEY .
    THEY SHOULD PUT THAT MONEY TO BETTER USE LIKE THE SHORTFALL OF THE PIER FUNDING .
    BUT HATS A WHOLE NOTHER CAN OF WORMS .!

  27. writing the truth says:

    Doesn’t the PC City Officials care that tax paying citizens disagreed with paying $10,000. to do this, when the town is in need of street lights for everyone’s safety. Just like the City Managers way over priced salary.
    I guess our concerns and opinions don’t county only when it is election time.

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