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Hillary Clinton May or May Not Have Raped a Child

| October 29, 2016

A young supporter at a Clinton campaign rally in Orlando Friday, headlined by President Obama, just as news of the latest Clinton email revelations was breaking. (Hillary for America)

A young supporter at a Clinton campaign rally in Orlando Friday, headlined by President Obama, just as news of the latest Clinton email revelations was breaking. (Hillary for America)

The headline is absurd, misleading, irresponsible. Dropped 11 days before the election, it’s vile. Yet it’s the sort of headlines we woke up to this morning with Hillary Clinton’s latest run-in with her own emails. It hangs on that cynical chad of justification: it is technically half true. She may not have raped a child. The other half has yet to be disproved, making it to her campaign the potentially fatal slander that nevertheless exploits just enough of a legal air bubble in this sewer of an election to seem fair game. At least to those who feel equally at home in their TV room as in their septic tank, FBI Director James Comey among them.

pierre tristam column flaglerlive Dan Rather was fired from a 43-year career at CBS for pulling that trick on George W. Bush’s National Guard service less than a month from the 2004 election. He hadn’t checked his documents, which proved shady. Comey may win a Congressional Medal of Honor by the time he retires for pulling the same trick on Clinton. But he’s the FBI director. So he not only can get away with it. He gives cover to the narrative that makes Clinton look like an enemy of the state even as he tells Congress that his agency “cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant.”

And chances are the significance to her will be nil to yawning, judging from what we’ve known from 18 months of Clinton-email foraging and what we know of these particular emails’ connection to Anthony Wiener, the Trump-like object of his own desires who has a habit of texting images of his cock to women and, it appears, underage girls. Comey knows, according to his own memo–uncovered by Fox News, of all networks–that the move is rankly political, that it breaks with FBI precedent, and that “there is significant risk of being misunderstood.” He is not just covering his ass. He is covered in ass. But that’s par for an election where, as the Sydney Morning Herald’s Nick O’Malley wrote, “It could be that the Pussy Grabber will become the president because Anthony Weiner kept on sending photos of his penis to women. For years.”

There’s no question that the original fault for all this is Clinton. Setting up an email server in her home was a colossal error of judgment and proof of her habit of secrecy, though I wouldn’t call it Nixonian. She reminds me more of a compulsive hoarder than a Machiavellian felon. “Do we actually know who told Hillary she could use a private email? And has that person been drawn and quartered?” Clinton aide Neera Tanden asked in one of those hacked emails. Why look past Clinton? She told herself she could do it, and did.

Her explanation in March 2015 should have had her drawn and quartered. It was embarrassing and offensive to anyone who knows the first thing about emails, which maybe leaves out the last Hopi holdout in an undiscovered Arizona cave. Her parody of a news conference last night from Des Moines was worse: she didn’t even pretend to answer questions or address the issue beyond putting it on the FBI. The “whole thing,” as Tanden so eloquently put it originally, “is fucking insane.”

What it’s missing of course is a little context and perspective. There’s no question that Clinton’s email insanity is a problem. But as problems go, it’s not the hydrogen bomb the throbbing veins on her detractors’ necks make it out to be, even and especially when you throw in the Clinton Foundation. Bill and Hillary Clinton are not Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. What one did with his foundation and the other did with her emails did not break laws. They did not pass secrets to enemies. They grubbed for money to good ends in a clumsy Robin Hood sort of way. I have no issue taking $12 million from the a distasteful Moroccan king or any millions from a despicable Saudi one if it’s going to help stave off AIDS for a few million people or give poor women and girls better access to health care, as the Clinton Foundation does. But reading the reactionary press you’d think the foundation was running guns to ISIS and Hillary was mass-mailing to recruit for Hamas and Hezbollah.

The facts are painfully duller, which only makes Clinton’s stonewalling and continued stuttering about it almost as deplorable as the Tamerlane brigades arraigned against her.

Those facts don’t register with the sort of hysterical trolls who’ll be massing in the comment section below soon enough. They may be irrelevant in this “Apprentice”-like remake of The Crucible. But the election is not an Apprentice episode. Evidence still matters. So here it is in summary as we know it so far. Yes, there were at least 75,000 emails, only 30,000 of which Clinton turned over, 33,000 of which she destroyed, and another 15,000 further uncovered by the FBI, not counting whatever emails were on the Weiner device he shared with his then-wife Huma Abedin, Clinton’s closest aide then as now.

Clinton says she destroyed the emails because they were personal. Maybe, maybe not. But the 40 percent of the batch she did turn over, or 73 percent, including the FBI’s findings, is certainly a higher proportion than the 10 percent of emails Jeb Bush turned over from the personal server he set up while governor of Florida. As with Clinton, only Bush and his aides went through the emails to decide what to release and what to hold back. Sen. Marco Rubio, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Texas Gov., Rick Perry and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal all had either private servers or private email accounts from which they’ve not released official documents.

All these men are have-beens. They’re not running for president. So let’s look at an actual president and his vice president: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Those paragons of transparency and honest government demolished some 22 million White House emails, or had them “disappeared,” Argentinian-style. And those emails weren’t about yoga or wedding plans. They involved state secrets, if not potential indictments of the many crimes these two men perpetrated with abandon across a few continents, when all wars and black sites are accounted for. As Newsweek reported in September, “This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.”

The FBI director’s McCarthyist revelations will change the trajectory of the race but not the bogus nature of the scandal.

Perhaps Bush and Cheney should’ve been locked up. A truth commission might’ve helped make that decision. Thanks to President Obama’s misplaced pander to conciliation Cheney got to take up his post as snarler emeritus on right-wing shout shows while Bush got to creepily paint himself taking baths. Trump is absolutely right: there’s a double-standard in media coverage.  The men are getting back-slapped. The woman is getting it between the eyes. I’m shocked, shocked that sexism is going on in this Trump casino, says Capt. Renault.

From what the FBI did recover and analyze in the Clinton emails, eight chains included top secret information, 36 chains included “secret” information, and eight chains included “confidential information.” But those classifications were made after the fact. “Government investigators say they found classified information in emails from Mrs. Clinton’s server,” The Times reported. “The emails were not marked classified at the time, and it is unclear if Mrs. Clinton knew that the information was classified.”

Those details and nuances never make it into prosecutorial news reports because they throw too much water on the stake’s flames. But it’s why the most the FBI could find against Clinton was that she was “extremely careless.” Bad enough, but nothing so comparably egregious as what the Bush-Cheney duo pulled, and certainly nothing that warrants stopping the planet on its axis the moment Comey emails Congress in late-night infomercial style, “Wait! There Is More!”

Nor do we know what the classified emails contain, naturally. We’ll find out in about a generation, assuming the classification fetish doesn’t spread that far. But the fetish is itself an unspoken problem: “In fiscal year 2010, officials made 77 million decisions to classify information,” the director of the Information Security Oversight Office during the Bush years and a colleague wrote a few years ago. “Even the most security-minded government officials — including Donald H. Rumsfeld, the former defense secretary, and Porter J. Goss, the former director of national intelligence — have said that far too much information is classified. Defense Department and National Security Council experts have estimated that anywhere from 50 percent to 90 percent of classified documents could safely be made public.”

It reminds me of an observation in a Solzhenitzyn book where KGB agents would scour New York City newsstands in the 1950s to pick up copies of Popular Mechanics and other such scientific and medical magazines, then ship them to Moscow, where they’d be transformed into classified documents of the highest order. Unauthorized disclosure would warrant Siberia.

hillary for america

Yet again diminished. Orlando, Friday.

Clinton is facing her own brand of KGB Kafkas in FBI garb. I have little doubt that when those “classified” emails of Clinton’s are finally released, they’ll be found to have been no more significant to national security than the size of her bunions, except maybe to graduates of the Henry Kissinger school of hush (of which Clinton is one). The constant stream of Wikileak revelations has been no more consequential: whether it’s her speeches to Wall Street, which reveal a measured and necessary blend of economic realism and idealism (again: why would she want to hide any of it, including and especially that European Union-like call for open borders?) or the intramural bickering of her campaign aides, none of it would have mattered had she had the sense to out it all on morning chat shows à-la-Ellen, where most of that dullish material belongs.

A sordid irony seems to escape the sound and fury around it all: While Trump and his rally choirs call for locking up the woman who was so careless with a few dozen emails retroactively found to be vaguely sensitive, here’s Trump encouraging Russia to spy and hack into American servers, here he is applauding Wikileak for previously dumping troves of documents that have revealed state and military secrets (going back to the conduct of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, encompassing relations with innumerable foreign governments and, at least according to the Pentagon, endangering American lives), here he is gloating of holding Clinton accountable while standing on a pile of theft. He’s always thrived from having others swing his baseball bats while exploiting false and slanderous accusations. He’s now poised to measure White House walls for pink marble.

Still I doubt Trump can ride this last Joe McCarthy Halloween special to a win. Just as none of his voters would change their mind if he murdered someone on Fifth Avenue, none of Clinton’s voters are about to change their mind because her arguments over catering at Chelsea’s wedding may have ended up in Huma Abedin’s in-box. That leaves those in between, that center where shrillness and ideology don’t play so well. The difference between the two campaigns’ bases should itself be a guide.

That difference tells you everything you need to know about the ethical chasm between them. Clinton’s flaws have the familiar echoes of 43 presidencies. She’s not reinventing corruption’s wheel here. It’s an understandable turnoff, and against a less weathered alternative she might have had no chance. But a turnoff so strident that Trump becomes the alternative? He has no precedent, no echoes, only the din of irrational alibis: his supporters have excused his self-described sexual predation, his unparalleled secrecy, his globalist hypocrisy on trade or undocumented immigrants, both of which he depends on for his empire, his towering debts, his tax-dodging, his default setting for insulting anyone and everyone, his bigotry, his sexism, his ignorance about domestic policy, war, foreign policy, governance. How any one of these flaws is any more excusable than all of Clinton’s flaws put together and then some is beyond me.

They all are, obviously, at least to those capable against all sense to cast a vote for him. That throbbing neck vein Trump is tapping has nothing to do with any of that. It’s not about evidence, facts, reality. It’s certainly not about nuance. At least not for that angry Trump mass, otherwise we wouldn’t have been left with this spectacle of the most insubstantial bloat in American presidential history. I just can’t imagine that this nation could be so deluded as to actually elect a man so deranged. But this has been the year of the unimaginable. Either way it goes, it will be.


42 Responses for “Hillary Clinton May or May Not Have Raped a Child”

  1. Freddy says:

    Trump for president! Hillary for prison.

  2. Concerned Citizen says:

    I wish that justice was simple and applied to the wealthy and privileged. Alas it does not.

    If Donald Trump has assaulted women then he should be in prison. His policies and rhetoric are embarrassing to our country. He does not have my support or vote.

    Likewise for Hillary Clinton. If Hillary did indeed misuse classified information and not handle emails properly. Then she to should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    There are procedures in place for protecting sensitive information. When one willingly violates those procedures then one should be held accountable.

    When you are given a TS/SA security clearance you are given a large amount of trust and responsibility. You are also given a long briefing and a list of nono’s that tell you how to behave yourself.

    High on that list is probably a sentence that says don’t use a personal server or address as SECSTATE.

    Her other actions including Benghazi should be held accountable as well.

    As long as we have the FBI and AG’s Office influenced by sitting politicians we will never see justice done on either candidate.

    I am normally big on voting and believe it is our solemn right to try and make change at the polls. However this year I cannot allow my vote to go towards either candidate as both are unfit to run this country.

    I don’t believe the lesser of two evils policy will do us any good with our 2016 choices.

  3. Fraudisreal says:

    Really , this over the FBI reopening it’s investigation with 10s of thousands of new emails, and just a few top secret shared ones with someone willout clearances. Who also lied and said all hardware was submitted??

    I do enjoy the daily laugh flagler live. Don’t worry if the FBI moves fast, and they do have enough this time , Obama can still pardon before inauguration . But… Do you sleep well at night? Does manipulatting a democracy which makes south American banana republics look honest pay well? Does having a completely corrupt criminal in the white house make any sense to anyone? How have similar situations always ended?

  4. Andy P says:

    Woo fiery article, PT! Thanks for the in-line links to items, it helps put facts behind the perspective. Now I gotta get some popcorn for the round of comments likely to appear…

  5. Katie Semore says:

    The Attorney General should fire Comey immediately, if not sooner.

  6. Katie Semore says:

    Maybe Trump paid him millions to do it and he is not concerned about his job.

  7. Fredrick says:

    So Pierre you got a few things right. She should have just turned it all over to begin with. Trying to play the
    well the others guys did the same” makes you sound like a spoiled child. It was wrong then and is wrong now. Apparently by your statements you know what was in the Bush Cheney mails, you obviously know what was in the ones she deleted and all the ones on Mrs. Wieners computer. Maybe you should share that information with the FBI. It would make things go much faster. Then share the Bush Cheney mails so that they can be toosed in jail.
    You condone the donation of money to the Clinton “Foundation” for access to the Secretary of state, the intermingling of her job with her “charity” for not only her but for the people who are working for her on our dime? That sort of crap on both sides of the aisle is what is wrong with the political establishment and it’s time they get the message. They need to be shown that we are pissed off enough to put a turd like Trump in place if they can’t get their shit together. Putting HRC there just condones what has been going on. ENOUGH.!

  8. Brian Riehle says:

    The only place in the world where a headline about Hillary Clinton may or nor have raped a child in on Flagler Live. Where are you getting this BS Pierre ? And please don’t tell me it’s a metaphor for what’s going on in the popular media.

  9. Ron says:

    Your candidate is guilty as sin. But you continue supporting her. Who in their right mind would vote for a candidate that is being investigated by the FBI. Trump is a leader who will get this country back on track. But you will continue to write this trash in desperation.

  10. Anonymus says:

    Another example of the mainstream media supporting Killary’s wrongdoings.

  11. Ghost says:

    Trump trumpeting time.

    The other silent majority, stands with Trump!

    Killary for prison 2016
    Trump for president 2016

  12. Anonymous says:

    In my 21 years in the military not once did a secret document ever been transmitted through a computer. We always handled them manually. I don’t get how even a secure computer could not be hacked. If someone wants it bad enough they will find a way. I believe it when you say those documents were marked with a classification after the fact.

  13. Justin says:

    As a trump supporter I really thought he had lost, but with this news I think its now a toss up!


  14. Mark says:

    Your heads are exploding! Remember, you are voting for this “sleazebag”

  15. anon2 says:

    Andy, I’m glad to see that someone reads the links. Apparently Trump followers only get their information from the mouth of Liar Trump and his surrogates. Groper Trump now has a dozen or more women who allege that he sexually assaulted them. Serial Groper Trump has 4,000 lawsuits against him, including more women who were groped by Groper Trump.

    “According to the previous FBI review, the small amount of classified material that moved through Ms. Clinton’s private server was not clearly marked as such, and no harm to national security has been demonstrated.”* Now we have 1,000, not 10,000, more emails to go through. Comey just couldn’t wait to appease his Republican pals by making the existence of these emails public, even though he can’t read them without a court order and has not idea what they contain.

    Benghazi, despite the best efforts of Republican lawmakers and millions of tax-payer dollars spent on investigations, turned up zilch. However, when Clinton requested additional funding for security, Republican lawmakers turned her down.

    Liar Trump has set the record for the most false or Pants on Fire lies and Pinocchios than anyone ever. But his followers still believe that elections are rigged or whatever garbage Liar Trump spews.

    Now, Andy, I’m going to pop my popcorn and wait for the comments to follow.

    *Washington Post

  16. Marlee says:

    and….add to the list of crimes:

    George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who lied and were the biggest architects and cheerleaders of the invasion of Iraq that destabilized the region and provided fertile ground for ISIS.

    Where are they now?

  17. beachcomberT says:

    Still surprised that Obama’s role in this long drawn out scandal gets a pass from the media. Hillary’s email abuses must have been evident to him or his aides early on. Why wasn’t she admonished in her first few weeks as Secretary of State? A memo from Rahm Emanuel might have brought her in line. And by the way, what is to become of Obama’s own emails. Are they in secure custody in official archives someplace, or does he too get to decide what messages were official govt business and which were purely personal. Pierre, you make many strong points in your essay, but, bottom line, you are trying to coerce us into voting for the lesser evil. Let’s move on to fresh material. Such as, can we trust the 25th Amendment to be an adequate safeguard that will remove Trump if he proves to be too psychotic?

  18. r&r says:

    It doesn’t surprise me, both her and Bill are kinky and both belong in prison.

  19. ken says:

    Here is a Carl Bernstein (of Watergate fame) quote from today’s NY Times.

    ““We don’t know what this means yet except that it’s a real bombshell,” the journalist Carl Bernstein said in a phone interview on CNN on Friday, adding: “It is unthinkable that the director of the F.B.I. would take this action lightly, that he would put this letter forth to the Congress of the United States saying there is more information out there about classified emails and call it to the attention of Congress unless it was something requiring serious investigation.” A viewer couldn’t see him licking his chops but could hear it.”

  20. Termites says:

    Trump supporters are less concerned with facts than they are their own conspiracy-laden fantasies. Why does Hillary belong in prison more than Trump, who violated an emabargo the US had in place with Cuba, just to do business there? He violated US law. Does anyone think he became a billionaire without doing illegal, shoddy deals that, as president, could end up threatening national security? Trump should be in jail for his numurous instances of sexual assault. If any “non-elite” did those things, they’d be punished. Just another example of the rich taking care of their own and getting away with everything. Oh and while on the subject of prison, I’m still waiting for George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld to get thrown in prison for war crimes.

    I’m so over this election garbage. I’ve never seen so many ugly people. I went to vote and Trump supporters got in my face at the far end of the parking lot. Now mind you, I did not wear anything or say anything to indicate party affiliation, and they started pushing saying, “vote for Trump. You have to. If you don’t you’re un-American, you belong in prison” and they became really aggressive and angry, surrounding both of us like a mob. If this is the kind of person that supports Trump, this country is a lot worse off than I thought. I asked someone, a Trump supporter, to give me ten good reason why I should got for Trump WITHOUT mentioning the following things: Hillary, “the wall”, Bill Clinton, e-mails, prison, illegal immigration, homosexuals, or fixed election. AND to define how he will, “make America great again.” They only gave me three reasons why: jobs (but not how), avoid war by placating Putin (which was laughable and scary) and taxes (reducing them for his bracket – again laughable because he’s no where near the bracket that will get Trump’s love). The answer to how Trump will make America great again is not fit for print. It involved epitaphs of many kinds and dealing with “those people” in shocking ways. Suffice to say, I’ve been friendly with this person for years and they never indicated they were a racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic hate-monger…because of this election, he showed his true self, which I’m grateful for because I’ve eliminated a toxic soul from my life and we no longer speak. If anything, this election has shown that America is a very sad, angry place full of a lot of people that hate others because they are different (skin, nationality, sexual orientation, etc.) and that is the most upsetting thing of all and has made me change my mind about a lot of people I know.

  21. greenbean says:

    People died and Hillary LIED !!!!! Remember Benghazi
    Bill LIED !!! Remember Monica
    What do they have in common???

  22. Ws says:

    Oh poor misunderstood Hillary blah blah blah. TRUMP 2016! Hillary for prison 2016!!

  23. Veteran says:

    If Hillary is elected she will be under a cloud of investigation for months, maybe years. The country will be weakened even more. God help us!

  24. Geezer says:

    This election isn’t over by a sight. I think that it’s going down to the wire,
    and be extremely close. Bill Clinton’s dream of being First Lady is not
    guaranteed to come to fruition.

    Who knows what major piece of dirt gets dug up on Clinton in the coming days…

  25. Mark says:


    And who was it that had complete control over Iraq before ISIS? Wasn’t that obama? Didn’t obama pledge to fix the mess? He did a great job along with his Sec of State.

  26. Tired of it says:

    Hillary is a crook that should be and hopefully will be in jail in the not to distant future. Donald will win!

  27. Mark says:

    @ anon2,

    I guess if its on the internet it must be true.

    Do you know what “(c)” stands for? I do. It is a classification marking. Especially when there is no (a), (b) or (d). It doesn’t take “many” to go to jail, it only takes one. When you have a security clearance you are taught how to properly handle it for a reason. It is classified for a reason. So it doesn’t get into the wrong hands. Guess what, classified info should’t be anywhere near a home brew computer system, marked or unmarked. As person who had a Top Secret clearance with access to SCI info I know that if I put certain info on this computer system (marked or unmarked) I will be in jail even after being out of that business for more than 10 years, fact. Comey knows hillary should be in jail and she should be treated like everyone else who handles classified info, plain and simple, fact. Not only should she be in jail, being convicted of such stupidity, per the law, she should not be allowed to hold a political office. Not a difficult decision here. I will not aid and abet her PROVEN actions.

    Who has proved that Trump has done any of the things splashed over the internet? If they did or could then he should be in jail too. Did hillary believe her husband’s accusers? Didn’t slick willy settle with some of his accusers? Why?

    By the way, my name is Mark Holley.

  28. John F. Pollinger says:

    I have a solution: the SYF channel on 1286 (Brighthouse) is airing re-runs of the Twilight Zone. Set your DVR and watch those episodes. The story lines seem so much more plausible lately rather than reality.

  29. Ken says:

    You’ve expended a great deal of time, energy and ink to defend a criminal. Are you really so biased as to equivocate Hillary Clinton’s felonious deeds to others? And, as a result, her actions are somehow nullified. Your spin is obvious and apparent. But, independent-minded voters will see through it and all of your efforts to defend her will be in vain.

  30. Barry Hartmann says:

    Please be prepared with all your excuses for when Trump wins on Tuesday. Trump , Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸Let’s all help to make America great again. Vote for Trump

  31. What happened to common sense says:

    Well said. Here is my 2 cents. Huma swore she turned all e mails in when she didn’t. Where were they found? On Anthony Weiner’s computer. Anthony Weiner…And you think Comey should have buried this, and not disclosed it. Why? So Hillary could keep her lying secrets, after Comey had promised congress he would disclose it. As to Loretta’s behavior, she also would have buried this, but she doesn’t even have the guts to tell Comey herself. She sends messenger boys/girls. As to the integrity of her justice department, I just caught her act in NYC where after a 2 year investigation the NY office found no civil rights violations ,her reaction was to fire them and assign others in the hope of rigging that investigation too. She is just an extension of Eric Holder who completely politicized the DOJ. A complete discrase.

  32. Common Sense says:

    Let me see if I understand this latest “scandal”.

    There MAY BE some emails on Weiner’s computer from his wife Huma Abedin. They MAY have secret information on them or they may not. This MAY have occurred because Abedin has been a Clinton staffer for many years.

    HOWEVER, I find the idea that Abedin was sending classified information to the husband, who was busy sexting, with other women farfetched to say the least. I believe they are now divorced.

    These emails were not sent by Hilary Clinton
    They could have been sent from any server, even a legal, government one.
    Abedin had top secret clearance so she had legitimate access to classified information.
    THe FBI Director doesn’t know what is in the emails.
    Nobody deleted anything.
    So…what exactly are Trumpians accusing Hilary of doing?

    Frankly, it seems like the Director is trying to cover his — in case Trump gets elected, God forbid. Sending that alarming letter on the basis of speculation doesn’t do his agency of him any favours.

  33. JimB says:

    Another article by the liberal Tristam that I didn’t read. I do not waste my time on the garbage he writes. I’m a fan of flaglerlive and appreciate the news I get, but the asinine articles of the editor do not interest me.

  34. BenAMarine says:


    It’s not about the emails.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton and her minions sent and received highly classified and sensitive government information over an unauthorized unsecured private network.

    They destroyed evidence.

    They broke the law.

    As the king pin, Hillary Rodham Clinton should have been arrested and charged.

    That said, “Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.”

  35. Mark says:

    @ common sense says

    Maybe the FBI needs to investigate to determine what exactly is on the computer, if it is classified info, where it came from and who sent what to who.

    Do you have inside info on your contention that they weren’t sent by hrc? Did they use a legal server to hook up with their home brew server, which would be illegal? Nobody deleted anything? They just scrubbed their home brew system with Bleach bit, no deleting here.

    Didn’t huma abadin say that she turned over ALL the devices she had the subject emails on, or destroyed them with a hammer? I guess she missed one. She probably isn’t very concerned how she handles classified info, but I am.

    We Trumpians are accusing hrc of mishandling classified information, of lying and selling her office for money. Of course it’s speculation until it’s investigated. Of course the FBI already said she grossly mishandled classified info and was given a pass on it. Electing hrc could cause a big constitutional crisis which would not be good for our great country. But hey, hrc and obama are the great uniter’s so there is no problem, right?

    Have I answered your concerns?

  36. Veteran says:

    BenAMarine you are correct sir. According to United States Code she is guilty of a felony – up to 3 years in prison.

  37. Rick G says:

    All you Rs out there agreeing with the opinion that Hillary is crooked etc… still voted for a thief as Governor of Florida… twice. The hypocrisy is as thick as butterscotch pudding. And by the way I am voting for neither of the two.

  38. jim says:

    The retired head of there N.Y. F.B.I. Office had this to say today…..

    “The Clintons, that’s a crime family. It’s like organized crime. The Clinton Foundation is a cesspool … It’s just outrageous how Hillary Clinton sold her office for money. She’s a pathological liar,” Kallstrom railed to John Catsimatidis on his “Cats Roundtable” radio program, before directing his ire at his former employer.

    Yet people will still vote for THEM!!! SMH

  39. Flatsflyer says:

    All I can say is “Never Again”, if you are so stupid to not remember Hitler and Mousilinni then go ahead and vote for Trump. The world’s leaders know and remember, Jews remember, Blacks and Espanics reember, LBGT, remember. Trump and his followers are religious terrorists and anarchists who have been trying for 250 years to destroy America. Do we have any Washingtons, Franklins, Madison, Hancock’s or Monroe’s to rebuild and rewrite out Constitution and create a better form of government. I don’t think so and you should not be so quick to destroy what we have. You have no logical option but to vote for HARC.Trump will destroy you and your family, believe me!

  40. anon2 says:

    @Mark Holley

    Thank you for your response to my comment, although I don’t see where your response in any way answers that which I commented on.

    There were exactly 3 emails marked with a (c). None where considered highly classified and none of those marked had the (c) in the header, but were improperly embedded in the body of the message.

    I did hear the crude, ugly, twisted, perverted comments made by Trump on the internet. Are you saying that because I heard them on the internet that they didn’t happen? Trump, himself, admitted that they happened. The twelve women who alleged Trump’s sexual attacks had some damning evidence to back them up and their statements closely aligned with Trump’s own words regarding his sexual proclivities. My information about twisted sexual proclivities came from a book by John Money, research on the subject as a college student, and counseling rape victims, not the internet.

    If you doubt the research about the incredible number of lies that Liar Trump spews every day, you should a least look at the research used to determine that Liar Trump lies as easily as he breathes.

    I said that Comey could not possibly have known what was in the emails because he would need a court order allowing him to view Clinton’s emails. He did not obtain a court order to search the emails until yesterday, i.e. before either you or I posted our comments. These emails were known to the FBI for weeks before Comey sent his letter out to Congress, which just happened to be days away from the election. Comey, by his actions, violated the Hatch Act. Should we lock him up, too?

  41. Outsider says:

    As was the case in Watergate, the attempted cover up was worse than the crime that was being concealed. Remember, Hillary’s emails were under subpoena by Congress BEFORE she began deleting them. So, read the following and see if you can honestly say she did not commit obstruction of justice, never mind mishandling classified information:

    U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees

    If it can be proven that an accused destroyed, withheld, or concealed the existence of official records being sought under subpoena by a committee of Congress, the accused can be convicted of obstruction under 18 U.S. Code § 1505. The prohibited conduct includes destruction, concealment and withholding of documents, thereby impeding or obstructing the committee’s rightful pursuit of information. The mens rea is knowledge of the committee’s interest in obtaining the official records in the accused’s custody or control. Violation of 18 U.S. Code § 1505 is a felony with a maximum prison term of five years.

    6.) 18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations

    If it can be proven that an accused knowingly concealed the existence of official records being sought by the Department of State Inspector General (DOS/IG) or by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), such accused can be convicted of obstruction. The prohibited conduct is the concealment and withholding of documents that impede or obstruct an investigation. The mens rea is the intent to conceal or withhold. Violation of 18 U.S. Code § 1519 is a felony with a maximum prison term of twenty years.

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