(© FlaglerLive)
Palm Coast’s Palm Harbor neighborhood may witness a radical transformation with a pair of proposed developments along the city’s Palm Harbor golf course and at the old Palm Coast Marina. The developments would total 120 hotel rooms and 318 multi-family units–town houses and condos, as the city prefers to describe them, staying away from the term “apartments.”
Both developments would be comparatively smaller than what had once been planned for the two areas. Both would include the ceding of significant property to the city, but also the return to the developer of some $1 million in utility impact fees paid years ago, but never spent on improvements. Both are on a fast track and slated for planning board and city council discussions and action in the next few weeks. A timeline for groundbreaking is less certain.
City Manager Matt Morton describes both developments as “the second golden age of Palm Coast,” restoring some of the original ITT amenities to the city. ITT was the original developer of the city. “When ITT was here they had put in motion a promise to people to come here, enjoy a tremendous quality of life, beautiful weather, a nice community, some great amenities–a promise of a better life, and I think a lot of people bought into that, and that’s why Palm Coast is here.”
The heart of ITT’s pitch had been the quarter-acre lot, many of them, in the old part of town, along canals–or the golf course at Palm Harbor. The two proposed developments do away with the quarter-acre lots but not the proximity to water and golf.
The golf course development would result in five, three-story buildings and 120 multi-family units (the city is calling them condos and townhouses rather than apartments, as at Canopy Walk) across from the golf course’s driving range. The developer, whose 16 acres there include the driving range–which the city has been leasing for a few dollars a year–would cede that acreage to the city, ending the possibility of that land being developed, or the golf course going without a driving range.
Morton pointed to previous entitlements that would have allowed a developer to build up to 16 buildings and have 39 additional units–and to have built on the driving range. The new plan would reduce that density and add 90 parking spaces for golf course users. The developers will be seeking approval of a master-planned development, asking for the higher-density, multi-family approach. “The alternative to this would be single-family homes spread out throughout the acreage,” he said.
The 9-acre marina development would include a complex made up of a 120-room hotel and 193 multi-family units with some commercial square footage. The city would gain ownership of the marina, which means the city would have to run it. While the developer would get back the $1 million or so in previously paid impact fees (without interest), he would have to pay impact fees again at the time of construction, and at today’s rates.
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Both developments are the concept of Atlanta developer Jim Jacoby, who’s long had close ties to Palm Coast and Marineland, where he once owned the dolphin attraction, still has land holdings slated for major development, and has worked closely with Palm Coast Mayor Milissa Holland. He is working with partner Sam Alley, who’s been the developments’ point man with Palm Coast government. Jacoby’s group bought both properties from Centex Homes in 2016, for $5.5 million.
“So Palm Coast will finally have a coast, maybe a technicality, it will be a municipal marina instead of a private marina,” City Manager Matt Morton said this morning. The city has not analyzed what it would take to run the marina, or whether it would be its own separate “enterprise fund,” but Morton said it would not require the addition of more staff and could be done in house.
“And so connection to the water, which I think was always part of the identity of Palm Coast, ensures that our local and national boating community is served, helps us regain some of our status as a boating destination,” Morton said. “We’ve actually talked to and heard from residents about in those days when ITT owned the marina and the hotel was there and the regattas, Palm Coast was a destination, you’d take your boat to Palm Coast for a day, whereas now everyone leaves for St. Augustine or points beyond.”
The marina currently is heavily used, with a shortage of boat slips. But there’s not been much investment there, Michael Schottey, the city’s spokesperson, said. The city is banking on state and federal grants to finance some future investments there.
Morton in an interview this morning kept making a distinction between “multi-family units,” which is usually a reference to apartments and condominiums, and the term “apartments,” especially with a lot of apartments already going up in Town Center.
“We were clear on this one, on both developments, that no one wanted to see apartment buildings coming in,” Morton said. “We wanted to see people invested in the area, living, working, people who are going to enjoy this type of community, be their friends and neighbors, not in an apartment, where you seem to have more influx and outgo in an apartment type situation, short-term living.”
“We didn’t want a giant, sprawling development, we didn’t want apartments near a golf course,” Schottey, the city’s spokesman, said.
The marina development when originally conceived included four buildings, three of them eight stories high, totaling 378 condo and hotel units. An eight-story high building was built. The proposed development is on a slightly more modest scale, with the hotel and the condo buildings topping off at five stories each, with a smaller, three-story building that would include five apartment or condo units above retail and office space. The marina’s total commercial space would be around 18,000 square feet and would have room for two restaurants.
The city doesn’t doubt that there will be some resistance to the developments. City letters are going out to property owners surrounding both developments this week alerting them to the hearings ahead. However, multi-family developments are defined–and even single-family developments–when they are located in a densely populated area, or an area intimately associated with a neighborhood’s character and history, the reaction from residents has been swift and vocal. In this case, however, residents have been waiting for years for the redevelopment of the marina area, and the concern around the golf course has tended to be more about its viability, and its effects on neighboring property values, than on potential developments.
On occasion, the appearance of survey flags and markings on golf course land caused residents to surmise that the golf course itself was at risk of being built over. That’s not the case at hand with the Jacoby plan. But that plan would undoubtedly change the complexion of the neighborhood, cleaving the golf course itself with imposing structures and plenty of asphalt.
“It’s easy for me to say but I hope people see what a tremendous opportunity this is to end a couple of conversations,” Morton said. “One, that we’re preserving the bulk of the land, it will be golf course, it will preserve the property values, it will preserve the view, and rather than our beautiful driving range and a significant portion of our golf course amenity and cart path being chewed up by 11 buildings, it will now be a driving range, and open space.”
If the city is expecting any push-back, it also appears to be more deliberately managing the roll-out of the proposal, with Morton and and Schottey briefing reporters on its details this morning. In the past, such proposals have tended to explode on the scene with little public preparation, leaving the city in a more reactive mode. The current approach suggests the administration is hoping to use transparency to its advantage, controlling some of the messaging on a high-profile proposal while anticipating what questions may arise.
Jacoby is wanting both projects to proceed through the regulatory process in tandem, seeing the economic viability of the two developments as interdependent, Morton said. The proposals go before the city’s planning board on Nov. 20. The planning board may only recommend approval to the council. Based on the same tentative schedule, the council takes up the matters at a workshop on Nov. 26 and would approve the developments on first reading on Dec. 3, and on second and final reading on Dec. 10.
Concerned Citizen says
Development is great and all. But when will they allow the infra structure to catch up?
Mark says
Why all the build up for oceanfront development when its clearly not oceanfront? Dont get me wrong, as there’s plenty of room for development and improvement of the Marina and surounding area, but not sure about the justification? Now if a permanent Jetty was built at Matanzas and a taller bridge it would make more sense, but then our town would also probably explode with the much more direct ocean access… but then again I could be way off here!
Name (required) says
So, will the palm Harbor golf club club house still be a double-wide trailer? Just curious.
FlaglerLive says
The club house is remaining undisturbed, with room to grow.
Thomas says
It appears that the Mayor and her new City Manager have sold out to the developers.
John says
I totally agree. It seems that City Management, specifically our “wonderful” mayor have already sold out to Big Money. How about we have a full scale maquette displayed for area residents to see what this “great” proposal will look like? Pretty talk from Mr. Morton and developers doesn’t change the fact that these will end up being rentals. The Marina should stay private, because despite the assurances from Morton that hiring new city staff would not be necessary, we know that eventually that is exactly what will happen. We tax payers end up footing the bill for all these Get-Rich-Quick proposals.
carol sullivan says
stop it now you are the mayor and city manager never told me anthing about this i live at 17 casper dr and i never got notice but i was at the first meeting and i am dead aganst this
Earl Moore, says
What is the proposal for Casper Drive it is compatible for increased traffic it is bad enough with people that are using it now to play golf.
Name (REQUIRED) says
Ya. Casper is a High speed super highway for privileged golfers making their way from the golf club through our neighborhood to get to Clubhouse Drive where they clearly do 20 over the limit anyways . Daily. WHY NOT!!?! Lol If I lived on Casper Dr, I would sell my house immediately!!! No haste! Peace out! Normally a real estate ad for this area should go as such: “quiet lot in an isolated golf course community, amenities; minutes from the beach, intracoastal, parks. Oh ya, the 500+ vehicle a day, whizzing past your home every day. All day. Can’t wait to see how the 4:00 pm bus stop at Casper and clubhouse works out with 1,000 new non-local, tourist, short term renter cheeseballs coming through. Hell, they need to build a new street altogether just for that! Seriously, I’m with the person who made the Comment about infrastructure. When will you bozos consider the already established streets, (residential) to accommodate all this traffic? As if nobody learned a freakin thing from the Florida Park disaster. ( YES, FLORIDA PARK IS A DISASTER.) why don’t you bootlicking, developer cuddling people in charge consider the fact that youre about to pour WAYYY too much traffic into ONE street onto an already BUSY RESIDENTIAL street? Seriously, WHAT THE F IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? I swear this town is full of idiots. I meet you everyday. I love that nobody who develops here, actually LIVES HERE. DO. NOT. TURN. PALM. HARBOR. INTO. A. TOURIST. THOROUGHFARE. PERIOD! You yanks are outta your minds! FACTS. The existing infrastructure will not allow it and you know it therefore you need to chill out. Uncanny. Just.. wow.
steve says
The City needs to divest itself of Golf courses, Marinas, Tennis facilities etc… NO GO
mark101 says
Nope maybe for sour old people with no activities, and just like to complain, but the course is just fine.
Larry Phelan says
Why are plans that were drawn up decades ago the guide to all the development in our county? Was the increase of cars per house taken into account? What about all the size of trucks and Suv’s?? Without jobs, that will mean more traffic commuting!! Town Center is a bottleneck now! Infrastructure is a farce and until that is repaired, there should not be anymore development!!
Megan says
Palm Coast needs to fix all roads to be compatible to the traffic!! We already have Palm Coast parking lot and Belle Terre parking lot
Kim says
I find it humorous that people are talking about the traffic increases. One of the things that drew my to the area in how well the infrastructure is compared to south Florida. I think the City should follow the Master plan set by ITT decades ago. I also think it would be great to have more restaurants that we can go to by boat. Right now it’s just captains bbq and hidden treasure.
KC says
What is the total number of new units the city has approved / is slated to approve at this point? It seems like between new single-family construction and multifamily housing developments, they are going to flood Palm Coast with new housing supply (several thousand new units). I don’t personally feel like our country is heading into a recession, which seems like more of a political talking point than anything, but if the economy does turn, this city may be left with a lot of failed developments. The powers that be might want to pace their rubber-stamping.
GolfGuy says
This is probably the most realistic thing the city has come up with in a while. The only issue is if they take away the driving range they would have way too many people upset, they would then take their business and all their good outings elsewhere pretty much rendering the golf course useless. The driving range needs to be there, not just for all the people that go there just for the range but that would take away from the Matanzas golf team leaving them to find a new place to practice but that is the golf course in the Matanzas zone and some kids may not have transportation to get further away. Bottom line from how invested I am in the golf community around here it would be a disaster to develop the driving range. The golf course almost struggles as it is but without a range they would be losing money every day. Not to mention how many people would want to live there right next to the course that would be paying almost daily to even just hit balls on the range. The range is money the city can’t afford to lose for the sake of the golf course. If they develop the range they may as well shut down the course as well because they won’t be able afford it anymore without the one thing a golf course really needs.
Robert says
More traffic, more construction vehicles, more housing where it’s not needed.
The City of Palm Coast trying to stuff 10 pounds of crap into a 5 pound bag
Stoner says
Why would you put condos in a historical neighborhood ? Not to mention in the neighborhoods of The Oaks and Covington Park . We will be packed in around the golf course ? Are these condos 55 and over ? Or just rentals for transients ? We do not need hundreds and hundreds of cars a day using palm harbor drive going between these 2 upscale neighborhoods . If we wanted to live by condos or apartments is what they are really called , we would have bought around one ! Take your condos to Town Center where’s there is room to breath . You are gonna smother us here around the golf course ! Just stack the people in there ! Why? And again ! You want to put high rises in our historical section of Palm Coast . Do you have to use every single piece of ground in palm coast to build on ? Can’t something be reserved ? Leave the golf course alone ! We are already packed in here ! Do you really have to stack people around the golf courses in apartments 3 floors high ?? Really ? We are pissed !
John says
We should all be mad and should show up in mass to these meetings. Politicians may want to make things easy for the developers but they’ll be reminded that we put them there.
Mike Cocchiola says
We need to seriously consider this proposal. That marina is our Palm Coast gateway to the many boaters who cruise up and down the Intracoastal. These boaters visit our stores, restaurants and recreational facilities. As important, boaters see our city, like what they see and settle here. This is all a good thing.
If the city can cut the right deal, we all need to support it. It’s good for Palm Coast and for Flagler County.
John says
Development is not always the best.
Art F says
The marina is already there. The issue is private vs public (tax payer supported) ownership. In addition to hiring more city employees – i.e. more tax dollars – it also removes a parcel assessed at 1.7 million dollars from the tax rolls – LOST tax money. Keep in mind the golf course debacle. Losing somewhere between a quarter to half a million dollars a year as well as lost tax money private ownership provides. Despite the hype – city ownership of the marina will change nothing except who is paying for it – you and me! If it’s such a good deal, then private investors will run it and make money and PAY TAXES, not take taxes.
Mike says
The section of Palm Harbor Parkway leading to the new “apartments” and golf course is not engineered to handle the increased traffic. Most importantly, the multi family residences need to be built tastefully and compliment the area.
Flatsflyer says
When the original plans feel through after the first tower was built, the city didn’t want to discuss future development because it was to shechy. Now low and behold it’s being fast tracked with no input from the surrounding residents. Where is all the work that took place 10 years ago which included public comments, concerns and input? It appears that there has been no consideration given to dencecity, traffic, public safety. Can’t even get the city to enforce existing laws related to stop signs, speeding, no wake violation and a host of other problems. Guess none of this matters as long as the city gets money from impact fees and taxes or maybe it’s as simple as some politicians get their greedy palms greased.
palmcoaster says
Lots of questions from us all affected adjacent residents to be asked to our city officials. Number one is if our roads infrastructure as stands now will be sufficient to sustain the additional traffic that will be generated. Second is if our current water and sewer utility will be upgraded to confront such a demand without diminishing our current services from which sewer has experienced problems in nearby areas to these proposals.
The deed back of the marina proposed will be an asset as used to be ours under ITT but I do not see a launching ramp then and I do not see either the location of the fuel pumps used by Palmcoasters boaters now.
The hotel should be rebuilt first to bring back the 300 jobs lost when they bulldozed the ITT Palm Coast Resort, as we do not want to happen again that they build the condos but not the hotel breaking their promise. Like I said many questions to be answered so please all attend these incoming important meetings.
Vincent Anelli says
No Comment
CW says
There needs to be much thought and consideration when planning the growth for our community. This is a huge responsibility for the people who make these decisions. The roads, schools, utilities etc. must all be well thought out. Sure we need to grow but be considerate of those thats everyday lives are being affected. Don’t ruin everything by strangers greed. Be very careful not to ruin a good thing! We do need industry and jobs. But plan correctly and make it a win win situation for everyone not just some greedy strange entities.
John says
Right on point. Greed and thoughtless City Management looking to have their five minute spotlight.
Robert tanner says
Vote come election time
Milissa Holland needs to go…..
To cozy to Developers for personal gain in my opinion
Art F says
Along with all the other spend and tax council!
Bill says
I like that the golf course will keep its driving range. I dislike that the City will now be on the hook for the Marina all its costs and loss of tax revenue from it. This new plan shows less buildings then the original so thats good IMO. A restaurant or two on the water in Palm Coast sounds GREAT something we dont have now. This all sounds like reasonable development to me.
Douglas Wells says
What Hotel chain will be coming in? At one time I think Marriott was interested but then lost interest. Also I see 2 restaurants. Does anyone know names?
Ralph Halvorsen says
My wife and I own a unit at Palm Coast Resort. We are very much looking forward to enjoying our retirement in beautiful Palm Coast. I sincerely hope that our little corner of the world doesn’t get so congested that the tranquility will be destroyed. I’m also disappointed that this plan seems to be on a fast track, and I didn’t get any correspondence about it until 10/15/19 from a consulting company. I would like to continue to be informed about future developments. We live in Connecticut, and cannot attend the meeting that is scheduled next Thursday on such short notice. Had I been informed earlier, I certainly would have been there.
John says
City management is trying to pull a fast one on all of us.
There’s no infrastructure in place to accommodate the increase in traffic. We need to show up at the meetings and show them our displeasure. At election time I’ll certainly remember it.
Mike M says
There are no existing residential development rights on the driving range now leased by the city. The land is platted for golf course only. So the city is going to give other city owned land on the other side of the golf course so they can get the deed to land that cannot be used for anything but a golf course AND giving the developer a million dollars? Shades of the CENTEX rip-off from the Landon/Netts years. How about the owner just giving the deed of the driving range to the city for the development rights to the harbor and the million dollars? The city holds ALL the high cards here and they play their hand like they do as we WILL be watching…
James says
Let’s face it, the great and all mighty ITT that everyone seems to wax nostalgic over bailed outta of this place as soon as they realized they might actually be on the hook for the infrastructure build-out that their “planned model community” would require past the initial development stage. That, and probably someone in management woke-up one morning and decided that they weren’t in the real estate development… among many other things. After all, it was a mega conglomerate back in its day. The 70’s were over, many companies tried their hands at this model community stuff, or at least mulled it over… it was a fashionable, futuristic concept.
Folks, it’s our problem now. And I’m in agreement with others here on the infrastructure problem… it’s just not there. And I don’t think grafting on to what is there is going to work in the long run. Not just for the new developments but for the existing “developed” areas here. I think we’re all going to see larger and larger water bills with little improvement in service or water quality.
Do we really need this housing explosion? Is Tidelands all built-out?… doesn’t look like it to me. Looks sort of like 2007 again in my opinion.
W.R.V. says
To Neighbors in the surrounding areas of the Palm Harbor Golf Course
Dear Neighbor,
The City and a developer are looking to make a deal that will put FIVE HUGE 3 story multi-family apartment buildings on the golf course. Adverse effects will be thrust upon ALL SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS of the Palm Harbor Golf Course if this deal goes through!
An initial meeting is being held Thursday, October 24, at the Community Center in room 112 at 6pm. The City only requires notification to be sent to residents within 300 feet of the proposed development(!). There is also a VERY IMPORTANT MEETING of the City Planning Board on November 20 at City Hall.
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The City has remained silent about this purposed rezoning and HAS NOT notified ANYONE in the surrounding neighborhoods bordering the golf course of their intentions.
WITH ALL OF THE AVAILABLE LAND CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN THE CITY OF PALM COAST THERE IS NO NEED TO “SHOE HORN” A PROJECT WITH 5 HUGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS INTO AN AREA OF BEAUTIFUL ESTABLISHED HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS OF PALM HARBOR,COVINGTON PARK AND THE OAKS AS WELL AS THE OTHER SURROUNDING SUBDIVISIONS!!
The special exemption that was given to Centex to build on the driving range has expired ! The driving range property is currently Zoned for a Golf Course. The owner is now legally UNABLE to build on the land and wants to give the City the Driving Range area in exchange for rezoning the property along Cooper Drive near the existing Club House/Restaurant area in the heart of the Golf Course ! He wants to build FIVE HUGE 3 STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS in that area!!!!
Instead of inflicting all of these totally Unwanted and Unnecessary changes in Our Community, Our Lives, Our Wildlife, and Our Property it is imperative that the City purchase the driving range land in order to gain 100% ownership and control of the Golf Course !!
The job of our Elected Officials in our City is to work in the best interest of our Tax Paying Citizens and our Beloved City of Palm Coast.!! This purposed Rezoning of the Golf Course DOES NOT ADHERE TO THAT RESPONSIBILITY !!
If the owner refuses to sell the property at a Fair Price it could be obtained with the use of the FLORIDA “EMINENT DOMAIN” PROCEDURES. The current owner of this property knew what he was getting into when he bought this land. He’s a Professional Developer that knows all the trick and how to “Strong Arm” City Officials into this BAD DEAL !!
The developer doesn’t live around here and he couldn’t care less about the surrounding community and I’m starting to believe neither does our Elected Officials !! He wants to make a Bundle of Cash on this BAD DEAL and then move on to the “MARINA PROJECT” at Club House Drive and Palm Harbor Parkway to “MAKE ANOTHER BUNDLE” as part of the Golf Course Deal.
EVERY PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING GOLF COURSE AREA HAS BEEN DEVALUED OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE OF THE GOLF COURSE’S UNCERTAIN FUTURE !!……. BUT OUR TAXES GO UP!
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For the last 14 years local homeowners have been agonizing about the fate of their properties!. Also during the last 14 years at various times the tax paying citizens have expressed their opinions at town meetings and the vast majority of them don’t want any thing built on the golf course! They want their golf course and their driving range! This has been a long ongoing battle that need to be finalized with an outcome in favor of surrounding communities KEEP OUR GOLF COURSE Zoned as a Golf Course and not a MEGA 3 STORY APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT !!
As well as the golf course project the city is also simultaneously actively pursuing the possibility of OWNERSHIP of the marina located near Palm Harbor Parkway and Club House Drive. Before the city embarks on the pursuit of MARINA OWNERSHIP, they should have complete ownership and control of the golf course property and strive to make all necessary improvements to it before embarking on a MARINA project!
That would put an end to the 14 year old golf course debacle, make the citizens happy. Also the city management can be proud they did their job and really did something GREAT that benefits the entire city !
BELOW IS A LIST OF SOME OF THE ADVERSE EFFECTS OF THE GOLF COURSE REZONING PROPOSAL
1) The FIVE 3 story apartment/condo buildings purposed do not fit in with the Historical Architecture that surrounds the Golf Course. The 5 apartment buildings will also take away the ambience and natural surroundings that keeps golfers coming back to enjoy the course, it’s beauty and wildlife.
2) The Extreme amount of traffic especially in the PALM HARBOR neighborhood located on Cooper Lane and Casper Lane and the subdivisions of THE OAKS and COVINGTON PARK on Palm Harbor Drive will increase by hundreds and hundreds of vehicles everyday. This will create much traffic congestion, safety issues, noise and air pollution. All other surrounding neighborhoods will experience much of this also! WE DON’T WANT AN ENDLESS FLOW OF VEHICLES ON OUR QUIET STREETS! !We don’t want to end up with the problem of an endless flow of traffic similar to the unfixable situation currently plaguing Florida Park Drive.!!.
3) The current sewage system in surrounding neighborhoods is inadequate now for the amount of waste to dispose of and process. This purposed project will overload our current system and cause possible back-ups of raw sewage in our neighborhoods.
4) There will be trespassers on the course after closing, foot traffic, and people walking animals on the golf course and in our back yards. A lot of this will occur after golf course hours and there is also a real possibility of an increase of crime in our neighborhoods.
5) WE NEED TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY INITIATED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT TO OUR LIVES,THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR BELOVED WILDLIFE. There are nests of OWLS,OSPREY, HAWKS and GOPHER TURTLES and other wildlife in the proximity of the new buildings, all of which will be which will be displaced or adversely impacted by construction.
Thank you for you interest in this and I hope together we can make our Palm Harbor neighborhoods a better place for everyone to live!
carol sullivan says
everyone at that meeting last night should all get together and picket and put signs no no no this is as bad as bings landing on a1a but they were stopped every sat and sunday people stood there with signs and stopped it
palmcoaster says
Agreed that city needs to address this two proposals with the existing residents quality of life in mind FIRST!. I walked both sites this last few days and can’t imagine the obstructing wall of multifamily that they are proposing crowding the minimal greenway district that we have left . Lets just have the landowner build the hotel and restaurant as we had the Sheraton ITT resort before and trade land if necessary with the developer in Town Center for his multifamily buildings plans if comes to the fact that he has real rights, after the special exemptions already expired. The marina is another story…as I never seeing a government owned marina “without a launching ramp”. We used to have one there and since when after ITT left we lost all those facilities created to be part of our amenities when ITT sold those homes or homes sites? Weren’t those part of the perpetual easements zoned originally by ITT to attract buyers and sell homes in Palm Coast? We lost all our golf courses (but fought and recovered the PHGC only) look at those people in the Matanzas one today. We lost our Palm Coast Marina launching ramp. We lost our ocean front pool and cabanas that we enjoyed for an affordable membership to Palmcoasters and was exchanged to Bobby Ginn by the FCBOCC for a check to build an ocean front parking lot access for Palmcoasters what a joke. We almost lost the Belle Terre pool and tennis…that people rallying saved so far. We also lost our Palm Coast Yacht Club… Now we need to preserve what we have left and not to be exchanged for more multifamily’s buildings among some historic already single family homes without proper infrastructure in place among others things. Please city officials be in our side this time. We have gone thru this before and we lost and you know it!
Susan schonfeld says
They need to make an opening for boats to get to the ocean here in palm coast. Then this area will go crazy and not only increase the price of your homes, but will bring more businesses. Rich businessman will move here if their yachts can get into the ocean quickly as it will cost much less to build here than in south Florida.
palmcoaster says
Thank you to all the many neighbors that showed up yesterday in the first meeting for these two projects and spoke about their serious concerns to the developer and the city officials present. I believe that unity and common sense will prevail and still have faith that our pleas will be heard and plans will be improved to preserve the existing residents quality of life FIRST. Lets all attend the November 20th meeting at city hall , Planning and Zoning, at 5.30 pm as was informed by Mr Tayner to all.
S.C. says
Palm Coast Parkway and Palm Harbor Parkway Intersection was designed for the exchange of traffic between the parkways and to keep traffic out of the residential neighborhoods. But the City has other plans. With this development it seems that Clubhouse Drive will possible fall to the same fate as that of Florida Park Drive, using residential streets as thoroughfares to exchange traffic between the parkways. The health issues of so much traffic in close proximity to homes are numerous; but that is not going to hinder the City. Traffic fumes / dust / noise is not their concern. Of course not, they don’t live there and the health issues children may develop from toxic fumes won’t bother them either. The City is good at Ordinances to protect the City and Developers, but fall way short on Ordinances to protect residents. If you have any doubts about the harm to children from traffic close proximity to homes go to: http://FLPKDR.COM/
John says
Votes will take care of that.
Steven Kalabokes says
It’s very obvious that the infrastructure, and not just roads, but water supply and sewage have not been considered in this proposal. Where is the information supporting this in the mass construction of all of these units? Green space continues to take a hit and Lord help us of the lists on Palm Coast Parkway, especially on the Easter side of the 95 are purchased and built up.
Having moved here from Northern Virginia and having seen first hand what unbridled development has done to a once desirable place to live, I have many reservations about explosive development in an oasis here. I find Palm Coast tranquil and soothing east of the 95, and that will come tumbling down. Politicians need to heed to needs of people living here who are the backbone of our community. This development will destroy the character of our neighborhoods eliminate the high density construction and replace with single family homes. The hotel and restaurants are welcome.
Charles says
Not sure why everyone is upset. There are already condominiums and townhouses all all around the marina property. They are very nice an compliment the area.
There are no traffic issues anywhere in Palm Coast. If you think there are, you never been anywhere that has them. One of the cool things about palm coast is the long term planning that keeps traffic at bay. None of this will cause traffic issues.
Peter’s says
Hello I’m looking at purchasing a home on Casper ln. is this proposed project still in the works?