Over three years in limbo and with two derailed prospects on A1A in Flagler Beach, Flagler County’s future visitor center got its biggest boost today on two grounds: The County Commission all but approved locating the center on State Road 100, next to the future pedestrian bridge and heritage trail. And it approved contributing an additional $500,000 as a local match for a hoped-for $8 million federal grant to build the center.
The Federal Highway Administration National Scenic Byways grant has a 20 percent local match, and will be filed by the Friends of A1A organization. The county around this time last year allocated $1.1 million. “Rising costs,” as a tourism bureau memo to commissioners explains it, are behind the request for additional dollars. The commission’s vote was unanimous.
The money is drawn from the Tourist Development Council’s coffers, which are drawn from the county’s 5 percent tourism surtax, charged to short-term renters and hotel and motel visitors. In essence, almost the totality of the money is being paid by visitors, for visitors.
“Staff has been diligently, for probably two years now, exploring multiple possible future locations, partnerships, funding sources,” Amy Lukasik, the tourism bureau’s director, told commissioners at their meeting this evening. The bureau is a division of the county administration. “This time there are a few key differences from last year’s resolution that was approved. Number one, we have identified and vetted a location.”
The bureau in two previous cases had first looked at buying the old Bank of America building opposite the pier in Flagler Beach, then at buying a vacant parcel on South 9th Street, fronting the beach. Both were expensive propositions. This time, the county owns the 23 acres where the Flagler County Visitor and Eco-Discovery Center, as it is being called, would be located. It’s currently a shell pit. It’s within a stone’s throw of the new pedestrian bridge.
The future 10,000 square foot, $6.5 million visitor center would have 51 parking spaces. The additional $1.5 million would be earmarked for associated infrastructure, including lighting and turning lanes.
“There’s also opportunity for a lake overlook and informational kiosk education type covered areas as well,” Lukasik said. ” The area would also include reception, ticketing, gift shop exhibits, interactive displays, multipurpose event space, informational materials and lots of bathrooms.” The facility will save the county $60,000 a year in rent, since the tourism bureau is currently renting space at a privately held office building at the county airport.
But Commissioner Donald O’Brien raised a pointed question based on the fact that Flagler County’s tourism numbers are not exactly in need of a visitor center to be enhanced. “I saw some of our tourism numbers, our collection numbers, and they’re growing and they’ve grown,” O’Brien said, “so at what point do we get to diminishing returns, say on the marketing side where additional dollars we’re spending don’t necessarily generate any additional tourism, because it’s coming in anyway? And maybe we reallocate all of that. I just think we maybe need to have a discussion about that. Maybe Now’s not the time to do that, Mr. Chair, but in terms of the financial side of it, how this relates to what our reserves are, what we have and how this impacts that–I don’t see that.”
The county’s reserves have been dwindling. But the tourism pot is separate. It’s run as its own, separate enterprise. As of January, the capital fund in the tourism pot had about $3 million, Lukasik said. As for visitors coming anyway, Lukasik said, “People don’t know where Flagler County is. I know it’s hard to believe that, but it’s very competitive,” she said. She said the TDC’s reserves are in the 20 percent range. Additional revenue in unexpectedly strong years mean greater reserves.
“I can guarantee you I can get you a better return on investment for $500,000,” Lukasik said.
“I’m not arguing that part,” O’Brien said.
A few members of the public addressed the commission. One spoke of the visitor center’s place in encouraging eco-tourism and bringing in more money. Another, Denise Calderwood, a former candidate for the commission, was less enthusiastic, questioning the process: “That should have been on a workshop,” Calderwood said. “It should have literally been vetted for everybody to understand it, for the community to understand that you all are approving $500,000 on next year’s capital budget, when I don’t believe it’s necessary.”
(It’not entirely accurate: the county’s capital budget is separate from the tourism bureau’s budget, and tourism bureau items are discussed at TDC meetings before they are brought to the commission for approval.) Calderwood conceded that “it finally makes common sense” that the center would be located on county-owned land, before calling the tourism coffers a “slush fund”–a characterization that later drew a sharp rebuke from County Commissioner Greg Hansen.
Danielle Anderson, one of whose innumerable roles in the community is as the byway program administrator for Friends of A1A, was more appreciative of the county’s role, imagining a more cohesive landscape of tourism organizations ahead, such as hers, Heritage Crossroads and TDC partnering. “This is going to tie all of it together under one roof, instead of being separated and siloed,” Anderson said. “This is going to bring it where it needs to be, together.”
Daytona State College’s Nancy Duke Birkhead, who heads Heritage Crossroads (whose mission is to “highlight the historic resources of Florida’s first Heritage Highway”) said the visitor center’s role should be more expansive than assumed by the name: “We need a place in Flagler County to talk about our history to talk about our heritage,” Birkhead said. “Plus one of the great benefits that I see for Heritage Crossroads: We use a lot of young people in our projects. We do service learning at Daytona State, so I use a number of my students to do exhibits on some of the founding families of Flagler County, for example,” or on other historical aspects of the region. “You need a place for those kids to be able to teach younger people to be able to put together exhibits, to be able to put together films that could really show people what this county is all about.”
To Andy Dance, the county commissioner, the discussion and potential project reminded him of a Garth Brooks song, “Unanswered Prayers.”
“I know a lot of people last year were praying about the other visitor center, the other location, but I do believe that this is the best choice and it’s a good thing,” Dance said. He spoke of the historical possibilities, the environmental connections, and the site’s value over the years. “I think this has ended up being really a gem of a site for us to take advantage of, and it’s been a working site since the 50s.”
The commissioners voted for the $500,000 allocation without hesitation.
We will still come before you again. This isn’t the last time. This is just to apply,” Lukasik said. “We have no idea what lies in front of us.”
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Local says
Somebody has to stop these clowns from spending so much damn money
Me says
Exactly….well written.
joe says
You clearly missed this part:
“The money is drawn from the Tourist Development Council’s coffers, which are drawn from the county’s 5 percent tourism surtax, charged to short-term renters and hotel and motel visitors. In essence, almost the totality of the money is being paid by visitors, for visitors.”
Pogo says
@Say what you want
But, that’s the most expensive red light for a front porch I ever heard of.
What a joke says
If DeSatan keeps making this state undesirable, visitations will decrease and if something isn’t done soon about the insane insurance hikes (mine went up 50%, again, zero claims, and I made all the modifications they asked for last year – so if it goes up 50% next year, I’ll be forced to sell and move somewhere else). Why? Palm Coast continues to invest in BS tourist centers and beautification instead of attracting high paying white collar jobs. I’m sure it’s hard what with DeSatan making it less desirable for business too. Give it two years for the numbers to catch up – less college kids enrolling, less visitations, and more people moving out than in. Numbers take time to catch up and as if this state tells the truth about numbers. Lol. What a joke Republicans have made of this state and this country just because they are racist, xenophobic, homophobic, sexist, misogynistic miscreants. Deplorables was too kind.
Stan Mcdonna says
Cope, and also seeth
palmcoaster says
Sure they can do it by getting the lions share of Palmcoaters ad valorem taxes double than city of Palm Coast and for what?, But do not contribute enough to preserve the Belle Terre Swim Club pool needed by the community in our long hot summers but only contributing mere $25,000 or so a year. What about using much less than that 1/2 million to repair what is needed at the BT Swim club? Shame on them!
Waste of our hard earned taxes. For what? to attract more tourist traffic to our already jammed insufficient roads? Why you put the cart before the horse and in our pockets?
Moma Mia says
You do know we have a functional community pool? We need to fill that pool with dirt and call it a day. Or you could spend $90,000 on an overpriced pool of your own. I say go to the beach. Oh, wait! What beach?
Simon says
Another ego project when the county’s coffers are already short. Want to spend money to encourage tourism? Spend it on fixing the beaches! That is what the tourists come here for! How many actually ever stop at a visitor center these days? Need information about a tourist destination? There is this thing called the internet. Try it out some time.
Dennis C Rathsam says
Another waste our tax payer money….. Who the hell visits Flagler County? They only come here to visit relatives.
Shark says
For What – Spend – Spend – Spend those tax dollars !!!!!
James says
SPEND, SPEND SPEND, WELCOME TO FLAGLER COUNTY.
Jay Tomm says
But why?
Nephew Of Uncle Sam says
“…for a hoped-for $8 million federal grant to build the center. ”
From that big bad President Biden Administration that the Flagler County GOP bashes quite often.
Bub Robson says
Nope fix all the problems first, repair the pier, repair the dunes, get a parking garage for A1A, just to name a few.
Brian says
Flagler County Commissioners as well as The Mayor of PC and their committee don’t listen to the taxpayers of Flagler County. These Officials all they do is spend taxpayers money.
DeSantis is scarying people from out of state to come here. All you read in the news is how much they aren’t happy wth the Governor and all his decisions.
People will be moving out of this state soon thanks to the Governor.
Stop with you foolish spending and do the things taxpayers want. SIDEWALKS, AND STREET LIGHTS. How about fixing the traffic around here.
Voters it is time to vote all Republicans out of this county they are useless and constantly waste taxpayers monies.
Steve says
I was over there visiting Family last week and your roads are in need of repair pronto
JohnX says
“the money is being paid by visitors, for visitors.”
Ahem, no, this is not the way it should be. At a minimum, it should be spent on beach restoration or some other ecological improvement to make it nicer to live here. The money should be spent on locals, by visitors. to make up for the fact that visitors make the area less desirable to live in. I’m talking about people that live here and don’t have a restaurant or hotel to pimp.
The money should be paid by visitors, for locals.
There, fixed it for ya.
Jay Tomm says
Also where are these cars going to go? If this is built, you;ll have everyone going up & down I95 stopping at the visitors center, Flagler beach, gas stations, BJ’s, and the 2 new 200+ apts complexes being built on Old Kings…….Last I looked 100 was 2 small lanes each direction.
Pogo says
@Boo hoo, where’s the good jobs?
Get off my lawn.
Welcome to town.
The traffic is horrible, by the time I get home from the buffet, I’m hangry again!
Hey cupcake! Why is all them people coming to Floriduh, huh?!
Get a better idea:
In Tampa, local officials are scooping up federal funds for a safer downtown
Problems persist but the infrastructure law is aiding progress. Washington is taking note.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/transportation/2023/03/22/biden-bipartisan-infrastructure-law-federal-funds-tampa-pedestrian-safety/
Shark says
When Hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey and New York Deathsantis and Little Marco voted against aid money. Biden should do the same !!!!!