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King Trump Meets King Pyrrhus

April 22, 2026 | FlaglerLive | 4 Comments

President Donald Trump speaks to the press before departing the White House on April 16, 2026
President Donald Trump speaks to the press before departing the White House on April 16, 2026. (Celal Gunes/Anadolu via Getty Images)

By Andrew Latham

President Donald Trump has claimed victory in the war in Iran even before the conflict is over. But despite killing the country’s leader and seriously degrading its military, there is an argument being made that the Islamic Republic has emerged all the stronger for having simply survived.

Indeed, a phrase that has repeatedly cropped up as the U.S. has sunk more and more military hardware and credibility into Operation Epic Fury is “Pyrrhic victory.”

That term also shows up in Iraq War retrospectives, in postmortems of U.S. operations in Libya and in just about every serious attempt to make sense of the past two decades of Western intervention in the Middle East.

But what exactly is a Pyrrhic victory? And is the U.S. really heading toward one in Iran?

1 king, 2 battles and a rueful remark

Most people use the phrase “Pyrrhic victory” to mean a win that costs more than it was worth to obtain it. That’s close enough – but it leaves out a crucial part of the story that makes the concept worth using.

Let’s go back to the beginning. In 280 B.C., Pyrrhus, the king of the ancient Greek kingdom Epirus, crossed into what is now southern Italy to fight Rome. He won major battles at Heraclea and then again at Asculum the following year.

But both victories hurt Pyrrhus. His officer corps was getting chewed up, and his best troops came from a small kingdom far from the fighting. They could not be replaced on anything like Rome’s scale.

After Asculum, he is said to have uttered, “If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined.” Plutarch wrote it down for posterity, and the line outlived everything else known about the campaign.

An etching of elephants and fighters in battle.
A 19th-century wood engraving depicts Pyrrus’ war elephants at the battle of Asculum, his ‘Pyrric victory’ in 279 B.C.
ullstein bild/ullstein bild via Getty Images

The problem wasn’t that Pyrrhus paid a high price for victory. Rather, it was that every victory shifted the balance against him.

A war can be costly without being “Pyrrhic.” If you come out of a battle clearly stronger than the opponent, then whatever the bill, something real was gained. The Pyrrhic case is when the side that claims victory is, in fact, in a weaker position than when the fighting started.

From Baghdad to Tripoli …

So how does that all relate to U.S. conflicts in the 21st century?

Iraq in 2003 is the obvious starting point. U.S. and coalition forces dismantled Saddam Hussein’s regime in just three weeks. On its own terms, the operation worked. But it also collapsed the Iraqi state in the process: army gone, ministries hollowed out and police absent.

What followed, in broad terms, was insurgency, sectarian war and then the rise of the Islamic State group.

Saddam’s Iraq also functioned as one of the main checks on Iranian power in the Persian Gulf. Not by design, and not in any cooperative sense, but as a rival that kept Tehran boxed in. Removing Saddam cleared space for Iran to exert regional influence not enjoyed since 1979.

The current war in Iran does not make sense without that shift. The U.S. went into Iraq to eliminate one purported threat – and ended up amplifying another.

The U.S. intervention in Libya in 2011, as part of a NATO force, looked cleaner. The air campaign was short, Libyan leader and longtime thorn in the side of Washington Moammar Gadhafi was dead within eight months – killed by his own countrymen. NATO had set out to protect civilians and remove a regime, and it did both.

The problem was what came next. Libya was Gadhafi’s state, and there was no real plan for a post-Gadhafi Libya. After he fell, what was left was division: militias, competing governments and an arms stockpile that flooded south into the Sahel region of North Africa and fueled conflicts that rage to this day.

Elsewhere, governments drew a blunt conclusion: Complying with demands to dismantle weapons of mass destruction programs, as Gadhafi had done, does not enhance security. In fact, it may have the opposite effect.

Both Libya and Iraq were, in this sense, “Pyrrhic victories” – battlefield triumphs that left the U.S. in a worse overall strategic situation than before.

… and on to Iran?

It is too soon to confidently pass judgment on where the war in Iran sits among these other wars.

But the outlines are visible. Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is gone, and the country’s missile forces and naval assets have taken heavy damage.

Washington has declared victory, and by its own metrics there is an argument for that.

A woman in traditional Muslim garb walks past a wall with paintings of drones and a fist on it.
An Iranian woman passes in front of a pro-government political mural on April 12, 2026, in Tehran, Iran.
Majid Saeedi/Getty Images

But on the other side of the ledger, Iran still largely holds the Strait of Hormuz – with leverage it did not exercise before the war.

Meanwhile, oil prices of nearly US$100 a barrel have rippled through the global economy, and Russia, without firing a shot, is positioned to reap the windfall.

The issue of Iran’s nuclear program – one of the many stated drivers of the U.S. campaign – now seems less likely to be resolved than before: A state that has absorbed this level of punishment has stronger reasons to want a deterrent, not weaker ones.

Getting the concept right

So, is Trump following the route of Pyrrhus? A Pyrrhic victory is not just a painful one – it is a victory that leaves one worse off against the same opponent. The question that tends to get skipped when the fighting stops is what, exactly, winning changed.

Pyrrhus had his answer after Asculum. Looking at the Strait of Hormuz, the oil markets, the stalled talks in Islamabad, and an Iran with even more reason to pursue a nuclear deterrent, perhaps Trump will soon have his.

Andrew Latham is Professor of Political Science at Macalester College.

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  1. Ray W. says

    April 23, 2026 at 1:33 pm

    India Today reports that President Trump recently reposted a portion of a Michael Savage radio broadcast, in which Mr. Savage said that India and China belong to a class of nations that are “hellholes.”

    Make of this what you will.

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    • Billy B says

      April 24, 2026 at 1:23 pm

      And trump is making our country into a shithole !!!!

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  2. Samuel says

    April 25, 2026 at 6:46 am

    We lost allies around the world because of Trump. He changes his mind like the wind, his lies are endless, he broke all his campaign promises. He started a war without Congresses approval, it is costing taxpayers billions of dollars daily, he is bankrupting us while he and his family are making money deals to only enrich themselves.
    The damage he is causing is going to take years to correct. Young children are growing up in an unsafe country with a bleak future.
    Wake up people next time you go vote, if Trump even will allow us to. He will do his best to stop us from voting especially since he has destroyed the Republican party and their ratings are the lowest ever.

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  3. Ray W. says

    April 28, 2026 at 6:30 pm

    It’s been two months since eruption of war. It may or may not be relevant to look back on the state of Iran’s nuclear weapons capability.

    On January 16, 2016, the International Atomic Energy Agency “verified” that between October 2015 and January 2016, Iran had:

    1. Shipped to Russia 25,000 pounds of enriched uranium (reporting has it that most of the uranium was enriched to 20%, a level that meant that if it acted in earnest Iran could have assembled a nuclear weapon in two to three months).
    2. Dismantled and removed two-thirds of its stock of centrifuges.
    3. Removed the “calandria” from its “heavy water” nuclear reactor and filled it with concrete (a calandria is a stainless steel container that houses a reactor core; it keeps the core cooled whether it is operating or not. In the Fukushima nuclear disaster, the earthquake damaged the piping that kept the four calandrias full. One by one, three reactors began to produce excess hydrogen as water levels dropped. One by one, each of the three impeded reactors then exploded.)
    4. Iran allowed for the first time access by IAEA inspectors to Iranian nuclear facilities and supply chains.

    Make of this what you will.

    Me?

    I don’t claim to know the status of the diplomatic discussions between the United States and Iran as of February 27, 2026, the day before outbreak of war with Iran. I do know of reporting that has it that diplomatic efforts were ongoing, moderated by the Omanis.

    If it is true as widely claimed that Iran in 2025-26 possessed roughly 900 pounds of 60% enriched uranium, roughly a decade after it had shipped to Russia 25,000 pounds of 20% enriched uranium, just how much uranium of whatever level of enrichment did Iran start with after January 2016? Zero? 900 pounds?

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