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Florida’s Hispanics Like Obama Over Romney By Big Margin, Dimming Rubio’s VP Appeal

June 27, 2012 | FlaglerLive | 36 Comments

Obama at the NALEO Conference in Orlando last week. (White House)

President Barack Obama is maintaining a lead over Republican challenger Mitt Romney in Florida in the latest Quinnipiac University poll, fueled by a big lead among Hispanic voters, who prefer Obama over Romney by a 56 to 32 percent.

The lead is surprising on two counts: Florida’s Hispanics have traditionally voted Republican. And talk of a Romney-Rubio ticket, floated by the Romney camp to test that possibility, was calculated to swing the state’s big Hispanic population Romney’s way–a swing that would theoretically affect November’s outcome in the fierce contest for Florida’s 29 electoral votes. A very substantial Obama lead among Latino voters would make Marco Rubio’s effect on a Romney ticket less appealing.


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The poll released Wednesday takes into account Obama’s declaration on June 15 that younger undocumented immigrants will no longer be deported. Latinos reacted enthusiastically to the new policy. In Florida, Hispanics supported the initiative by 58 to 33 percent, while 46 percent (against 40 percent) said Obama would do a better job on immigration, overall, than Romney would. The results of the poll also take into account Romney’s talk on immigration in Orlando last week. That announcement did not have one overriding policy proposal, and was more notable for Romney’s more conciliatory tone on immigration than it had been during the primary season, when he repeatedly suggested that undocumented immigrants should “self-deport.”

The latest Quinnipiac poll is part of a trio released this morning, focusing on swing states. Obama’s lead in Ohio is now 47-38, an improvement over a March poll that had Obama leading Romney 47-40 (at the time Rick Santorum was still in the race). Obama’s lead in Pennsylvania is 45-39, also an improvement over March’s 45-42.

It would be almost impossible for Romney to win the election without winning Florida, though it is easier for Obama to win if he doesn’t hold Florida–as long as he wins Ohio and Pennsylvania.

“President Barack Obama has decent margins over Gov. Mitt Romney in Ohio and Pennsylvania and a smaller advantage in Florida,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. “If he can keep those leads in all three of these key swing states through election day he would be virtually assured of re-election.”

Brown added: “The president’s overall margin is built on his big lead among women, younger voters and African-Americans. In Florida, on the heels of the president’s order that will prevent the deportation of some younger illegal immigrants, he holds a big lead among Hispanic voters. The horse race numbers reflect the general view of voters that they like the president better. Obama has a net favorable view among Ohio voters and he is viewed evenly by those in Pennsylvania and Florida, while Romney’s favorable/unfavorable ratio is negative in all three states.”

In Florida, Romney still leads 50-35 percent among white voters. Obama leads 85-6 percent among black voters. The president had a 47-40 percent lead among women, with men evenly split. But another darkening prospect for Romney–and a brightening one for Obama–is the recent surge in independent support for Obama, who now holds a 44-37 percent lead in that category.

Last week’s Florida poll story is below.

Seesawing Continues as Obama Retakes Florida Lead; Sen. Bill Nelson in Trouble

June 21–Florida is turning into a microcosm of President Obama’s fortunes as he counts the days (138 of them, to be precise) until Nov. 6: he’s up one day, down the next, but neither surging nor plummeting. The latest Quinnipiac University poll, released this morning, has Obama in a favorable 10-point switch over Mitt Romney. Obama erased a six-point deficit in the last poll, when he was trailing 41-47, in late May. He’s taken a four-point lead, 46-42, thanks in large part to independent voters. In late NMarch, Obama was ahead by seven points.

The deciding factor is key: whoever controls independents in Florida will win in November, as Democrats and Republicans have, by overwhelming margins, already made up their mind. The number of registered independents is surging in Florida, well ahead of Democrats (who have the overall plurality) and Republicans. The latest poll was conducted between June 12 and June 18, so it doesn’t entirely reflect reactions to Obama’s executive order ending the deportation of young, undocumented immigrants. He made that announcement on June 15. More tellingly: it comes after the June unemployment report, which was a significant disappointment as job creation hit its lowest figures in a year and unemployment inched up again.

Also notable: the last poll, when Obama was behind, was taken just after the president’s clumsy declaration of support for gay marriage, which did him no favor in a state notorious for its homophobic tendencies. The effects from that announcement appear to have evaporated.

Trend-wise, the news is less reassuring for Sen. Bill Nelson, Florida’s last remaining statewide elected Democrat. Nelson, hoping to win his second re-election, is running ahead of Republican Connie Mack IV by just four points, 43-39. It’s the same margin as Obama’s, but the trend and nature of the race is very different: an incumbent senator in the state would normally have a more comfortable lead. Nelson has yet to manage one. In May, Mack had a one-point lead. Mack hasn’t won the Republican primary yet, but he might as well have: he wins 41 percent favorability from those polled. His opponents, including Former U.S. Sen. George LeMieux, Tea Party favorite Mike McCalister and U.S. Rep. Dave Weldon, each are in the single digits.

“At this point, the Republican Senate nomination is Congressman Connie Mack’s to lose,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. “In politics, anything is possible and we still have two months to go until the Senate primary, but it would take a major change in public opinion for one of the other candidates to stop Connie Mack. And the projected November election between U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson and Mack looks like it could go down to the wire.”

Nelson isn’t quite in the dog house: voters give him an anemic 47-32 percent job approval rating. Just 46 percent say he deserves another term. Mack has a 34-22 percent favorability rating, with 42 percent saying they don’t know enough about him to form an opinion. (Here’s a hint, from a Mack posting on his Facebook page: “I’m proud to receive the endorsement of Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is working hard to repeal ObamaCare! Thank you, Pam!”) Nelson took over the seat Mack’s father, also called Connie, vacated when he retired in 2000.

In the presidential race, Obama’s lead reflects the coalition that elected him four years ago, Quinnipac numbers show. He carries women 49-39 percent, African-Americans 91-5 percent and voters 18 to 34 years old, another key demographic–if those voters actually turn up at the poll, as they did in big numbers in 2008–55-28 percent. Obama also leads 48-41 percent among voters 35 to 54 years old. Romney carries white voters 50 – 37 percent and voters over 55 years old 48-43 percent in a state where the elderly vote, often synonymous with tea party and other right-wing elements, have a dominant voice.

But it’s among independents that the shift is most pronounced. On May 23, independents were favoring Romney 44-36 percent. It’s now 46-37 for Obama. Obama also carries Democrats 88-4 percent (no surprise), while Romney takes Republicans 91-5 percent.

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Floridians still give Romney the edge 48-44 percent on the economy yet split 45-45 on who would create more jobs, a curious dichotomy that suggests skepticism about Romney’s own jobs record: television ads have been running in Florida markets pointing out Romney’s dismal job-creation record when he was governor of Massachusetts for one term (2003-07). And voters believe Obama would do more “to advance the economic interests of middle class Americans” by 49-44 percent.

“At this point, Romney is not well-defined in the minds of many voters, especially those in the middle,” Brown said. “his movement reflects that uncertainty among voters who are up for grabs.” That. too, does not augur well for Romney, whose name recognition has not been an issue, and whose positions, such as they are, have been on display throughout the Republican primary debates.

A few other notable findings in the Florida poll: military households disapprove of Obama’s job performance by 59-39 percent. Born-again evangelicals disapprove, 74-24 percent. Obama’s likability remains at significant highs: overall, 76 percent find him likable, including 57 percent of Republicans, 81 percent of independents and 72 percent of military households. Comparatively, only 66 percent of evangelicals find him likable.

Romney’s likability contrasts sharply with Obama’s: just 60 percent find him likable overall, mostly on the strength of Republicans (84 percent). Only 60 percent of independents but 77 percent of evangelicals find him likable. He does well among the rich, too: while fewer than 60 percent find him likable in households making $50,000 or less, his likability rises to 75 percent for households making more than $100,000 a year.

Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,697 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.4 percentage points from June 12-18. Live interviewers called land lines and cell phones. The survey includes 698 Republicans with a margin of error of +/- 3.7 percent.

Other recent polls:

An Associated Press poll released today shows Obama winning by 3 percent nationally. Rasmussen Tracking has Romney winning by 4 percent. Gallup has Romney up by 2, Bloomberg has Obama up by 13. Real Clear Politics’s composite polling has Obama up by 2.1 percent nationally, with Obama ahead in Ohio by 1.8 percent, in Florida by 1.8 percent, and in Virginia by 3 percent.

Real Clear Politics's latest composite polling, Romney-Obama.
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Comments

  1. Anon says

    June 21, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    What the Quinnipiac University poll cannot factor into their calculation is the boost that Romney will get through Rick Scott’s efforts to disenfranchise voters.

    The so-called fraud solution in search of a problem.

    Reply
    • sam8131 says

      June 27, 2012 at 10:54 pm

      Or Obama’s failed Affordable HealthCare act going down the tubes. Or the continued descent of the world’s and our economy. Or the Syrian debacle. Or Obama’ s failure in the middle esat. Did I mention jobs and the sinking economy? Can’t wait for the gas prices to go up again. Wait till all the new money hits the strees and inflations starts. Did I mention the lack of jobs? What’s the black unemployment rate? What’s the hispanic unemployment rate? Good job obama!

      Reply
  2. question says

    June 21, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    Re Survey: Looks like we’re going to show this thread may be sadly– accurate:

    Democrats Outpacing Republicans In Florida Registrations, But Not in Flagler

    The same tea party/conservative idiocy that wants to send the senior United States Senator, a former Space Shuttle astronaut , Senator Bill Nelson, packing.

    No sir…only unindicted Medicare Fraud kings [& anything the NRA wants] get our vote]!

    Reply
    • sam8131 says

      June 27, 2012 at 10:57 pm

      Space Program is shut down, we don’t need an astronaut to be in congress. We need an economist/businessman, Thomas Swoell!

      Reply
  3. Clint says

    June 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Polls are “worthless garbage”. Not only will Obumbo lose, he will be arrested and charged with TREASON after the elections along with his commie buddy Eric Holder .

    Reply
  4. Bonnie Bellin says

    June 21, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    I rest my case!
    fellow alleged “treasonous commie”

    Reply
  5. Think first, act second says

    June 21, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    I believe the caption to the picture is wrong, I think it was Nelson telling Obama that he was not helping, just like the NC, WV congressmen/women and senators have told the DNC that they will not be attending the DNC convention in Charlotte. They can’t even draw a crowd of their own believers.
    Maybe Soros will send Obama some more money so he can buy some more votes.

    Reply
  6. roco says

    June 21, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Look at Obama’s expression. It look like he’s asking himself, what am I doing here with this loser.

    Reply
  7. Yellowstone says

    June 21, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Hey Clint-

    Still got medical insurance? Have you run out of unemployment? Still looking for one of those jobs anywhere in the public sector; ie, fixing roads, bridges, teaching school, firefighter, policeman, county or city job?

    If your answer is “No” to any question – FIND OUT WHO IT IS VOTING AGAINST YOUR BEST INTERESTS. You’ll be better informed rather than belivieng the hate mail.

    Take names and vote correctly next time.

    Reply
    • NortonSmitty says

      June 21, 2012 at 7:53 pm

      You mean so we get the results we have gotten for the last three years as reward for voting correctly last time?

      Reply
  8. gatorfan1 says

    June 21, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    obama and nelson both need to go and sooner rather than later. nelson was fleecing the american public when obama was in grade school…..bub bub byeeeee!!

    Reply
    • NortonSmitty says

      June 21, 2012 at 7:38 pm

      Don’t have anything to say to that.

      Reply
  9. NortonSmitty says

    June 21, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Here’s the real punchline to all of you well informed students showing of what you learned at PolySci101 at the Murdoch School of Mayberry Machiavellian Thought as well as the supporters from the Moonbeam School of Hope and Change: Your both Suckers!

    Anybody that would support the Republican Party after eight years of Bush/Cheney is not even worth an insult and is too damn stoopid to waste any sarcasm or parody on.

    And also those of you who are still posting in defense of the Nobel prize winning Harvard educated Constitutional scholar who promised us change and salvation from the Evil Republican Bastards who Tortured, Killed and Spied on us all, But somehow he is doubling down on every abuse we railed at from the Bushies. Torture, spying, drone murder, prosecuting whistleblowers and dissent. You still support him after this because he isn’t a Republican? You sad desperate fools.

    A pox on both your houses! If you think Obama is running this country today any more that the drunken, coke-snorting Air Force deserting son of the ex Director of the CIA was before him, you have to shut off your TV, pull your head out of your ass and wake up.

    We all know we are getting screwed, that’s obvious. But you have to realize that whoever the American media is telling you who that is THEY ARE LYING!!! You both know this. We all do in our hearts.

    In the words of The Master: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=hYIC0eZYEtI

    Your neighbor is not your enemy. The ones who stole our Government are.

    Reply
    • sam8131 says

      June 27, 2012 at 11:01 pm

      Your heand is the enemy! Follow your heart and you will do it right everytime!

      Reply
  10. pollworker says

    June 21, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    You should be thanking Obama for for getting us out of some of the mess Bush put us in.
    Obama had nothing to do with the bottom falling our. It started with the wars after 9/11. Bush was after the wrong man. Obama got the right one.
    The Republican business man is not creating any new jobs because they want Obama to loose.
    You should get your facts right before you vote. We have a lot of people voting because of a party or one issue. Listen to the news and read your newspaper. Talk among some friends could be unfortunate.
    Don’t believe all you hear. Find out the facts.
    If you have Social Security and Medicare you should be thankful. If you do not need it, vote foe Romney.
    If you vote for Romney your children will never see S.S. or Medicare.

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    • sam8131 says

      June 27, 2012 at 11:19 pm

      I don’t believe all I hear. Only what I observe, Now tell me about all of obama’s great accomplishments.

      Fisrt president to have our credit rating lowered.
      Kills people, including Americans with drones.
      Lets the leader of Egypt fall, a man who has helped and stood by to help America and Israel.
      Went to war without the consent of congress.
      Okays foreign drilling offshore, restricts American drilling.
      Overregulates and keeps businesses guessing about new regulations.
      Touts transparency; but dosen’t live up to it!
      Bypasses Congress with executuive orders creating new laws.
      Takes million dollar vacation while the country is in 16T debt.
      Gives donor green companies millions of taxpayer dollars with no recourse of recovery if the company fails.
      Tells Russia where each one of our nuclear missiles is located in the British military.
      Rams through an unaffordable “Affordable HealthCare Act”
      Refuses to let state agencies to enforce federal laws.
      Picks and chosses the laws he will defend wether he has sworn to defend them or not.
      Distorts facts and figures to sway people with lies and half truths.
      Uses his color to twist peoples arms to vote for him, he is a racist.
      Arrogant, refuses to work with other towards compromise, his way or the high way.
      Takes no responsibility for his decisions or actions.
      Has no negociating skills.
      Surrounds himself with people and advisors who blatently profess to dislike America and its way of life.

      Reply
      • Dorothea says

        June 28, 2012 at 8:52 am

        @Sam8131

        Your list of Obama negatives came right out of Fox lies News.

        Fact 1: Obama has only made one Executive Order in his tenure, not plural like previous presidents.
        Fact 2: Obama tried compromise and was blocked by an intransigent Republican Congres, over and over.
        Fact 3: Most of the green companies were successful.
        Fact 4: That million dollar vacation that Obama supposedly took is a blatant lie perpetrated on Fox Lies. It didn’t happen.
        Fact 5: The Affordable Care Act will reduce health care costs. Check with the CBO.
        Fact 6: Lack of government regulation got us into this economic mess.
        Fact 7: The credit downgrade was a direct result of the tea bag Republican Congress who blocked paying our previous debts and that was so stated when the downgrade was given.
        Fact 8: The newly elected president of Egypt has promised to cooperate with Israel.

        As for the rest of your list, it consists of your opinions, which have little to do with any facts.

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        • Magnolia says

          June 28, 2012 at 11:41 am

          Dorotha, you need do a bit more reading. This is frightening that so many are believing what they hear on their fav station and not finding out for themselves.

          I have to tell you this but both of you are playing fast and loose with the facts.

          This country is in deep, deep trouble.

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          • Dorothea says

            June 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm

            @Magnolia

            Please point out any errors in my comment. Thanks.

            Reply
            • Magnolia says

              June 28, 2012 at 3:47 pm

              Dorothea,

              1. A complete list of Obama’s Executive Orders may be found here:

              https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/search?conditions%5Bterm%5D=How+Many+Executive+Orders+has+Obama+issued%3F

              2. Which did he try compromise on? I am not aware of any, but I may be wrong. We only recently voted in a Republican House. The Senate still has a Democrat majority.

              3. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-28/abound-solar-to-close-as-early-as-today-greentech-media-says

              Could you please send me a list of solar companies using taxpayer money that have been successful? I looked for a list but could not find one.

              Green firms get fed cash, give execs bonuses, fail – abc news
              http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/green-firms-fed-cash-give-execs-bonuses-fail/story?id=15851653
              http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/

              4. Obama’s Family Vacation costs taxpayers $4 million
              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/20/obama-hawaii-vacation-cos_n_1158825.html

              President Obama’s lavish vacations under scrutiny again
              http://news.yahoo.com/president-obamas-lavish-vacations-under-scrutiny-again-153900010.html

              5. I believe the CBO figures to which you refer date back to the passage of the law.

              You will find they have substantially increased those amounts just recently:
              http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/03-13-Coverage%20Estimates.pdf

              Family care costs to exceed $20,000.00 this year.
              http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/29/pf/healthcare-costs/index.htm

              6. Yes, the lack of government regulation did bring us here, but at the same time, the new regs have failed to bring down the actual cost of healthcare.

              7. Those “tea baggers” did ot cause the downgrade:

              What the S&P U.S. Credit Rating Downgrade Means:
              http://business.time.com/2011/08/06/what-the-sp-u-s-credit-rating-downgrade-means/

              8. If the Muslim Brotherhood, the new govt of Egypt, are able to get along with Israel, that will be wonderful, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. These people are deadly enemies.

              I love your posts and I know how much you love this President. I respect that and hope you will allow me a difference of opinion.

              Reply
              • Dorothea says

                June 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm

                @Magnolia

                Thanks for the correction on Executive Orders. I was thinking of Executive Privilege. But here’s some facts on Executive Orders.

                http://mediamatters.org/research/201201030005

                Regarding compromise: There are so many news articles on Obama trying to compromise with Republicans, that I respectfully ask that you do the googling. I think I explained before that Obama could not get anything passed in Congress because of Republican filibustering and more lately, a tea bag controlled House. Here one link.

                http://mediamatters.org/blog/201204230012

                What new regulations would you be speaking of that haven’t worked? Affordable Care Act doesn’t go into effect until 2014.

                Regarding the credit downgrade:

                http://mediamatters.org/research/201108080025

                Obama family vacations cost taxpayers millions, not because of their personal expenses that he pays for, but because of the entourage that must accompany him.

                http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008050054

                Regarding green energy:

                http://mediamatters.org/blog/201206210020

                I don’t love the President as much as I love my country and don’t want it destroyed by Romney, Republicans and Fox News, the media arm of the Republican Party. All of the above links are fully sourced, making it easier to respond to your post without spending hours sourcing everything.

                Reply
                • Magnolia says

                  June 28, 2012 at 9:38 pm

                  Dorothea, take a look at the timeline for the regs. Most people don’t realize that about half of the law is already being implemented.

                  http://fleming.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hc_timeline.pdf

                  I’m going to have to disagree with your source re the rest. Mediamatters is more than a little biased, they are a progressive political organization with strong ties to the Obama White House.

                  http://spectator.org/archives/2012/02/21/is-media-matters-obamas-waterg

                  Can you list any other sources for your points?

                • Dorothea says

                  June 29, 2012 at 4:11 am

                  @Magnolia

                  Media Matters lists its sources. Media Maters is, in fact, progressive, but they do fully source whatever facts their opinions are based on. Ironic that you would choose American Spectator as your source. It is extremely right wing.

                  The provisions that of the ACA that have been implemented do not materially affect the overall cost of healthcare.

                • Magnolia says

                  June 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm

                  Dorothea, I give up. By listing only one source I believe you proved my point. Your information was incorrect.

  11. NortonSmitty says

    June 21, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Polliwog, explain to me how after I voted for the Socialist that got more money from Wall Street than any candidate in History, the one that led me to believe in Hope and Change, the one who made me cry on election night thinking we just elected a Franklin Roosevelt for the 21st Century and turned out to govern like the bastard was Dick Cheney in Blackface, please Polli explain to me before I fail to figure out how I can possibly extend this paragraph any longer to make the point that politics are irrelevant today as long as both parties are owned by people who don’t give a fuck about you or me or the idiots who take MSNBC or Fox seriously, the people that think they are well informed and patriotic because they would screw up their idiot neighbor because they don’t understand they are being played, unlike themselves. Whew!

    Your neighbor is not your enemy, the people who are convincing you he is ARE!

    Reply
    • Magnolia says

      June 22, 2012 at 1:18 pm

      Norton, I am honored to know you. At least ONE gets it.

      Reply
  12. Dorothea says

    June 22, 2012 at 8:45 am

    @Smitty

    When you find your utopian paradise where heads of state don’t lie and people don’t kill each other over religion, politics, and power, let me know. When you find your perfect world where there are no shades of gray and there are only your standards of right and wrong, let me know. Perhaps you and Newt Gringrich can establish a perfect utopian colony on the moon.

    Reply
    • Magnolia says

      June 22, 2012 at 1:21 pm

      Dorothea: It’s really simple for me. I ask myself the question, “have things gotten better or are they worse?”

      There is no utopian paradise, but I most definitely don’t want more of this. In my view, you don’t get rewarded with reelection for this.

      Reply
    • NortonSmitty says

      June 23, 2012 at 5:14 pm

      Dorthea Darlin’ we know there never has or never will be a utopia, but this country has been getting less free, less fair and less democratic (Small d) since, oh, I’d say about 1963. November 22nd to be exact. And it’s going downhill faster every day. I believe it’s really too late to actually do anything about it, but I swore years ago I was going down laughing and wiggling my ears at all of us fools that let it happen.

      It’s the least I can do for Humanity.

      Reply
  13. Anonymous says

    June 22, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    After almost 4 years and another 5 TRILLION of debt is this Republic better off??? No its not.

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  14. Dorothea says

    June 22, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    @Magnolia

    I’m not sure you get what Smitty is saying. Smitty thinks that both candidates are equally bad. Here’s what Smitty said about people who vote for Republicans:

    “Anybody that would support the Republican Party after eight years of Bush/Cheney is not even worth an insult and is too damn stoopid to waste any sarcasm or parody on.”

    If you aren’t going to vote for Obama, who will you support in order to keep Obama from being reelected? Unless of course you are one of the stoopid (sic) people that Smitty refers to.

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    • Magnolia says

      June 27, 2012 at 12:24 pm

      Dorothea, I’m gonna support ANYBODY BUT Obama. You gonna call me a racist now?

      [Dorothea and Magnolia, you both are better than this.–FL]

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      • Magnolia says

        June 27, 2012 at 2:09 pm

        Dorothea, here’s the problem…the economy is killing us all. To me, this is not about “stopping him from being reelected.” I rarely support incumbents unless they have shown me something exceptional. I didn’t like it when Bush was President, I’m not liking it now.

        I watch him bail out wall street, the banks, the car companies. And I see 25% of the nation’s homeless children right here in Florida. (Those children come with parents, families). Just try to find a cheap motel room anywhere in the Orlando area. They have become homeless shelters for a quarter of the kids in this country. Have you heard any politician speak about these children, even once? About the empty homes everywhere? Hillary is out there giving billions to foreign countries.

        With the money they’ve spent, we could all be living in mansions, have college tuition and lifetime medical care all taken care of. Once again, a politician lied.

        All those evil people we keep hearing about received help from this administration, but not those who need it the most. He’s helping the unions, the immigrants, every special interest in the country who can vote for him, but not us.

        You don’t keep reelecting the same people if you expect to see something different. That goes for every elected politician in Washington. Not ONE of them have even acknowledged the American devastation going on now. We have no leaders anymore. We have lifetime politicos…It is all about them.

        So I will vote for Romney and if I am embarrassed four years from now, you may call me whatever you wish. But I just can’t support this anymore. I haven’t been this embarrassed since Nixon was President.

        I’d rather YOU were President. I’m not stoopid, I’m the last person on the planet you’d call a racist, I just don’t want to see this continue. Time is running out for us all.

        I’m not gonna waste my vote. I’m voting for the other guy.

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  15. Dorothea says

    June 27, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    @Magnolia

    At the risk of alienating FL, I will answer the question you raised. This is what Magnolia said,
    ““have things gotten better or are they worse?”

    My answer is that things have gotten better. This link pretty much sums it up.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/19/1056385/-Are-We-Better-Off-Today-Than-We-Were-Three-Years-Ago-Uh-Yeah

    I judge the question based on the state of the country, not the state of my personal life and I have no idea if you are a racist. Since I’ve been admonished by FL, I’ll refrain from answering as I normally would, but the answer would have contained the words “shoe and fit”, not glove and acquit.

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  16. Dorothea says

    June 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @Smitty

    My dearest Norton, the pendulum of politics has swung from right to left and left to right in perfect balance since we adopted our Constitution. I would date the beginning of the end of this balance, not from the death of JFK, but from Dec. 11, 2000 when a conservative Supreme Court appointed George Bush, president of the United States. It’s been all downhill since then. But, unlike you, I prefer to adjust to the consequences of SCOTUS’ political appointment rather than giving up on our country altogether. I owe it to my kids and grandkids to support Obama becaue the election of Romney would deliver a death blow that I don’t believe this country would ever recover from.

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  17. John Boy says

    June 27, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    The election will be determined by the number of Republicans and Tea Bggers who get their white sheets back from the dry cleaners and are not out of town attending the National KKK Convention.

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