An at-times tense meeting of a House panel Tuesday exposed a simmering debate about whether a proposal to teach about the history of communism in grades as low as kindergarten is a polarizing idea or, as a supporter said, “not divisive in any way.”
The bill (HB 1349) would require lessons about communism and its history in all grades of public schools. The requirement would take effect in the 2026-2027 school year, and lessons would have to be “age appropriate and developmentally appropriate” while covering certain topics.
For example, the bill would require lessons about the history of communism in the U.S. and domestic communist movements. The measure also would require teaching about the “increasing threat of Communism in the United States and our allies through the 20th Century, including the events of the Cultural Revolution in the People’s Republic of China and other mass killings from Communist regimes.”
The Republican-controlled House PreK-12 Appropriations Subcommittee voted 10-2 along party lines to approve the bill, with three of the panel’s five Democrats absent when the vote was taken.
Rep. Patricia Williams, D-Pompano Beach, pointed to a need to address other educational issues such as students not being able to read on grade level and said the bill’s supporters “want to put something in the classroom to divide them.”
Williams also suggested that the measure’s supporters were following orders by backing the bill.
“I’m so glad that the Democratic Party allows us to vote our district and our history, versus being robots, given something (that) somebody tells you what to do and how to do it,” Williams said.
But bill sponsor Chuck Brannan, R-Macclenny, rebutted Williams’ comments, saying that he had only spoken about the measure with constituents.
“The insinuation that someone told me to run a bill — I refute that, that is totally a bald-faced lie and not true. I don’t know where that comes from,” Brannan said.
Brannan also said Florida “is home to a diverse community of victims of communism” and that “this educational initiative is not divisive in any way, there’s nothing nefarious about this.”
“It simply aims to provide a comprehensive understanding of communism’s impact. Not as indoctrination or fear-mongering. But as a means of acknowledging its role in victimizing, torturing, murdering and displacing millions of people in the past century,” Brannan said.
The measure also seeks to set up a Communism History Task Force under the state Department of Education. The proposed task force would be made up of gubernatorial appointees and would be responsible for recommending curriculums and academic standards for instruction about communism.
Julie Meadows-Keefe, who spoke in opposition to the bill on behalf of the group Florida Moms for Accurate Education, urged members of the House panel not to approve the bill but said if they did, lawmakers should require it to be “balanced.”
“I would hope that curriculum would be included about the McCarthy era in the United States of America. Where we were divided, at war with one another, where people were unfairly dragged before Congress and accused, unfairly, of being communists. So if we’re going to present this curriculum, I would hope that it would be balanced,” Meadows-Keefe said.
Several Republican lawmakers vehemently defended the bill.
Rep. Vicki Lopez, R-Miami, said lessons about communism were part of her education growing up.
“I may be dating myself a little bit here, I went to school in the ‘60s, at a time when we had Russia in our backyard, and Cuba. I have a distinct recollection of learning about Marxism, communism, the McCarthy era. It was all taught. I didn’t think it was unusual, it wasn’t divisive. I’m curious as to how we got away from it, quite frankly,” Lopez said.
Rep. Alina Garcia, a Miami Republican who said she was born in Cuba, argued that it is “never too early to teach our children the atrocities of communism.”
“When we don’t learn from our history, we are destined to repeat it. And there will be nowhere to go, God forbid, if this country ever falls into the hands of communism,” Garcia said.
A change to the bill approved by the panel Tuesday removed a proposed requirement that instruction about the history of communism include lessons about “cultural Marxism.” A discussion in a previous House meeting focused, in part, on the use of the term and how it would be defined.
A similar Senate bill (SB 1264) awaits a hearing by the Senate Education Appropriations Committee.
–Ryan Dailey, News Service of Florida
MeToo says
Gettin’ ’em ready
rapscallion says
no perfect system exists because the systems are run and co trolled by extremely imperfect animals.
Endless Dark Money says
if its coming from r-cons you know its divisive. keep the corporate oligarchy right!
Samuel says
Next think to expect is the white hoods and confederate flags.
JW says
Do we want to TEACH about communism, or indoctrinate against something that has almost disappeared or is this coincidentally going the cover up our own increasingly dysfunctional democracy?
No problem, but then address the pros and cons of both systems (and democratic socialism) so the kids can LEARN something.
Pogo says
@Full blown HUAC fever
As stated
https://www.google.com/search?q=house+committee+on+unamerican+activities
Tailgunner Joe’s grave has infected Floriduh’s drinking water
https://www.google.com/search?q=Tailgunner+Joe
Samuel L. Bronkowitz says
Excellent, will this be side by side with the history of capitalism? Kids could really benefit from learning about the Congo.
Marek says
Teaching kids in elementary schools about communism ? Seriously ?
Deborah Coffey says
Are we losing our country to Fascism, or have we already lost it? Only THEY can indoctrinate. Do something, people!
Sherry says
My thoughts also, Deborah. First of all, generally speaking, teaching such complex political theory in “elementary” school seems to smack of “indoctrination” of such young children.
I found my own “Junior” year class called “Americanism vs Communism” to be a truly excellent lesson in vital “critical thinking” . My outstanding teacher walked us through how ALL media is at least somewhat slanted. We poured over local and national newspapers, and quickly became astute at picking out the editorial biases and propaganda. After a while, those manipulative words seemed to highlight themselves with Mr. Thomas’ yellow translucent marker. Although we didn’t have access to translated Soviet Union newspapers, our teacher made it clear that the Russian people were completely closed off from learning anything at all about the cultures/government/politics of other countries. They were intellectual victims of massive propaganda published from their “closed”, government controlled media outlets.
That class fundamentally and permanently changed my perspective regarding information published by American media outlets 24/7. My “critical thinking” requires my own fact checking and research. I take nothing at face value. I can usually spot misinformation/disinformation a mile away. The louder and more often something is blasted by the media, the more suspect it becomes. Snopes and other fact checkers are my friends.
It wasn’t until I actually traveled to Moscow and St. Petersburg in the Winter of 1987 that I actually got a first hand experience with the highly educated but “closed off” Russian culture.
Deborah Coffey says
Ditto to everything except for your trip to Moscow.
Laurel says
Part of a song from my youth.
“…Let’s get Santa Clause ’cause:
Santa Clause has a red suit
He’s a communist
And a beard, and long hair
Must be a pacifist
What’s in the pipe that he’s smoking?…”
Thank you Arlo.