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240-Boat Storage Facility in the Hammock off A1A Will Go Forward as County Rejects Objection

November 4, 2019 | FlaglerLive | 13 Comments

A schematized image of the area of the proposed Hammock Harbor redevelopment included in the Hammock Community Association's appeal of a county decision opening the way for the project.
A schematized image of the area of the proposed Hammock Harbor redevelopment included in the Hammock Community Association’s appeal of a county decision opening the way for the project.

The Flagler County Commission today rejected an appeal of a disputed decision that in August had opened the way for the redevelopment of a disused boat yard in the Hammock. The commission’s unanimous vote allows the owner of the 4-acre parcel, immediately adjacent to Hammock Hardware, to go forward with a plan to build a boat-storage facility there for 240 boats, along with a restaurant. Jim Buckley, the owner, has no plan for other shops.




The parcel at 5658 North Oceanshore Boulevard had once been a Newcastle boating company manufacturing plant. It’s been in disuse for several years. It’s overgrown, its hulking hangar rusty and out of place with its surroundings. Buckley intends to level the structure and rebuild one not too dissimilar, at least in size, but wider, topping off at 40 feet high, and with aesthetic improvements. He’d intended to build a 58-foot-high structure with different setbacks, but the county’s Technical Review Committee found those exceptions to existing rules impermissible. Buckley backed down.

Either way, the Hammock Community Association was not happy with the proposed re-development. Its membership considers the plan, not just the proposed structure, out of kilter with its environment, and sees it as an invitation to heavy traffic and more intense development than the county’s development rules allow.

That’s where Planning Director Adam Mengle stepped in with his controversial interpretation. He determined that Buckley’s plan for a development called Hammock Harbor would be less “intense” than the boat manufacturing plants that had preceded it, and that it would fit with the county commission’s 2000 rezoning of the parcel as C-2 zoning–general commercial and shopping district.

Of course, the manufacturing that took place under Newcastle’s roof involved one luxury boat per year, with a value of around $10 million.

“The code does give the planning director the authority to interpret ambiguities in the code. However that doesn’t mean you cannot overturn that decision,” Sean Moylan, the county’s assistant attorney, told the commission. (Moylan was sitting in for County Attorney Al Hadeed on this particular issue because of Hadeed’s involvement in the 2000 commission action.)

The Hammock Community Association appealed Mengle’s determination. The appeal went to the planning board with two questions: did Mengle have the authority to make that determination, and did he make the right determination? “The planning board voted yes on both accounts,” Moylansaid. The association then appealed the planning board’s decision, placing both questions before county commissioners.

The association knew that it was a long shot. But its aim was not simply to contest Mengle’s role, but to bring Hammock Harbor under more scrutiny, bringing it out from under the Technical Review Committee’s usually less publicly visible, more bureaucratic wings. The association’s appeal was also a means of putting the commission on record regarding the development, and a further illustration of the commission’s deference to decisions generally more rather than less favorable to more rather than less intense development. The commission’s Hammock Harbor decision is the latest in a series of such decisions that also include the approval almost two years ago of 200 homes near Lakeside-By-the-Sea–a decision that may be having unintended consequences for the nearby subdivision called Willow Woods–and the approval of a 50-home subdivision that will change the complexion of Jungle Hut Road.

Representing the association, attorney Dennis Bayer said the restaurant at Hammock Harbor was not objectionable. But allowing Mengle to make the determination on land use was. “We’ve not seen data to support the decision” that boat storage is a permissible use of the property. Mengle could have applied regulations and proper interpretations, but not override responsibilities of boards or officials. The determination then usurped the county commission’s role to make such a determination, Bayer argued. “Mr Mengle was basically redefining what was provided for the property in 2000,” Bayer said.

Bayer also argued that Mengle’s interpretation was incorrect: “There is a significant difference in intensity of what’s being discussed under this current boat storage facility because,” Bayer said, “the existing building that’s there is completely going away. Parking is increasing substantially,” with what the Hammock Association estimates will be a tenfold increase in parking and the installation a 10,000-gallon fuel tank to enable daily boat launches. “This is an entire different use that was previously approved of one luxury yacht at a time,” Bayer said. He described the proposed facility as a warehouse. “And if you look elsewhere under your C-2 category, warehouses are not permitted use in the A1A scenic overlay zoning, so for that reason it’s not a permitted use in C-2. If it were to go through the proper channels, I think that’s going to be a fatal flaw.”

But Commission Chairman Donald O’Brien asked Bayer a question that elicited what appeared to be a contradictory answer, at least regarding the association’s discomfort with intensity: would the association be OK with a restaurant that would need all the proposed parking spaces in the current plans? Yes.

“You say this is not an approved use,” Bob Million, who represents the owner, told the commission. “You realize that grocery stores are not an approved use–specifically approved? There’s some interpretation in all of these codes, so what we have is a situation where at 5878 North Oceanshore there was a dry boat storage, fuel, marina, and operated for 30-plus years. C-2 zoning. This is an identical use to that previously approved, nobody complained about it, ongoing operation. We’re not here looking for a zoning change, we’re not here looking for anything other than upholding the planning director’s decision, which was upheld by the planning board. All the requirements that are in the code will be upheld. The 40-foot residential buffer has been retained, will be retained. It was clearly retained. So we’re not doing anything out of the ordinary. This is simply developing a piece of property.”

He conceded that using the word “intensity” was the “wrong choice.” It will be more intense. But it won;t exceed the building footprint or the parking requirements.

Dennis Clark, a member of the Hammock association, read a statement from Thad Crowe, a veteran planner and planning director who served eight years on the Flagler County Planning Board and co-authored the Scenic A1A overlay district. He said there would increase traffic to 1,200 daily trips on Sundays, among other issues, and a 500 increase in the impervious area–the area to be covered by concrete or asphalt, which would then impact drainage and flooding. He saw the proposal as “creating a new use,” requiring a pair of hearings before the commission. But even then it appeared as if, had the commission granted those hearings, its decision would not have been different.

Million disputed the claim of 1,200 trips a day, citing a 340-boat storage facility ion St. Augustine where on Memorial Day, the biggest day of the year, “62 boats went out,” he said. “How do you get 1,200 trips?”

Jodie Bollinger, a resident neighboring the 4-acre parcel, said she did not “relish the thought of being bombarded with noise from a huge forklift truck and its beeper or from the boat and car traffic it would produce,” or having her view of the Intracoastal “marred” by a gasoline storage tank or a 40-foot tall warehouse, describing the project as “an attack” on the vision for the hammock. Others also objected, among them John Russell, who owns the Hammock Hardware property and the residential property south of the proposed boat-storage facility. Russell said he had no objections to previous boat yards, but he did not believe the claims that the proposed redevelopment would be anything like those uses, especially in “intensity.”

“It’s all how it’s designed, how it’s put together. I think they’re oiver-estimating the noise, they’re overestimating the problems,” Million said. “I’ve built these things, I’ve run these things, and the problems are not what they say. The physical side? That’s code. The parking? That’s code.” (See: “Hammock Harbor Re-Developer Seeks to Reassure Skeptical Neighbors of Project’s Scope.”

Commissioners essentially agreed. “I think it boils down to interpretation of whether it’s a warehouse or not, that’s pretty simple,” Commissioner Greg Hansen said. “Most of the arguments I heard today were pretty bogus, I’ve got to tell you.” He said he was referring to high traffic numbers, relying on his own observation of the number of boats he saw at Ponce Inlet recently. “It’s unfortunate that Mr. Mengle used the phrase less intense, because I don;t see that at all, it’s got to be more intense than having 12 workers, now you’re going to have a restaurant and boat storage.” But he said the noise issue was not valid.

The commission voted 5-0 to reject the appeal. No further step is expected before either the planning board or the county commission regarding the Hammock Harbor redevelopment project.

The appeal background is here.

See also HCA’s briefings:

Video from Planning Board with boat forklift example
HCA Hammock Harbour Overview
Commissioner Briefing Document (Steve Hatcher)
Illustrations of site plan and issues discussed

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Comments

  1. Concerned Citizen says

    November 4, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    Of course the County didn’t see anything wrong with it.

    Like many other BOCC’s in the area our County BOCC is as corrupt and crooked as can be. Most have been bought out by special interest groups and developers long ago. They won’t rest until every inch of Flagler County has been over developed.

    I’d like to think that we have a chance of voting them out at the polls. However with the amount of money spent getting re-elected you have to wonder where the votes really come from.

    Change will never happen in this county unless we get these incumbents out of office. Some of them have been in so long they have long stopped caring about their consituents.

    Reply
  2. CB from PC says

    November 4, 2019 at 7:07 pm

    I could give a shit about the Marina storage…etc.
    But now that the Commishes have again caved, more worried about departing drunken boaters and restaurateurs entering A1A and crashing into vehicles traveling on A1A.
    Is there a roundabout in the master plan? Haha.
    Going to be noisy, congested and stupid.

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  3. Jody Bollinger says

    November 4, 2019 at 8:42 pm

    The land development code prohibits commercial warehouses in the A1A Scenic Corridor. Hammock Harbour will be storing 240 boats in a building that is 57,000sf., which is larger than a football field. The owner intends to make a profit, which makes it a commercial warehouse.
    The commissioners somehow deemed that a building used to store 240 boats in a huge building does not meet the definition of a commercial warehouse.
    The A1A Scenic Corridor overlay was written in 2004 to prevent such a development in the Hammock. The commissioners decided ignore that part of the code.

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  4. Willy Boy says

    November 5, 2019 at 5:06 am

    Those folks crammed into those 200 homes near Lakeside-By-the-Sea need someplace to store their boats.

    Reply
  5. Florida Boater says

    November 5, 2019 at 8:37 am

    Its Florida! Floridians love boating. No better way to get out in the fresh air and truly enjoy the natural splendor of this area. There is a lack of boat storage options, Code enforcement is quick to ticket any boat stored in Palm coast not tucked into a garage, and not everyone has a proper tow vehicle and trailer or can afford luxurious C section saltwater canal home rental/mortgage. Cut the guy some slack, he plans to offer a valuable and much needed service to the community.

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  6. palmcoaster says

    November 5, 2019 at 9:07 am

    Where all the generated “poo” will go to the old outdated Palm Coast Utility sewer that is bubbling sewage into the surrounding communities manholes covers while being pumped out by Brownies tank trucks day and night with any heavy rain? Sewage fragrance invades enough areas around Palm Coast Parkway so far rather often. The Florida Department of Health needs to see what is taking place as they are the one’s to approve the county’s over development as well. We do not have the infrastructure in place for all this growth yet.

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  7. Hammock Bear says

    November 5, 2019 at 9:41 am

    As the Hammock Turns . More like the rape of the old Hammock.

    Reply
  8. Bigred says

    November 5, 2019 at 3:02 pm

    I don’t boat and selfishly don’t want more people in my hammock but boo hoo to me it’s capitalism let them build it

    Reply
  9. Lifetime resident says

    November 5, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    This is just the type of business that can bring many jobs to the area as well as affluent boaters who spend money at the restaurants and fuel stations.

    This business will also generate work for the local contractors which do boat service and sales as well as all the needed accessories.

    Just like the expansion at bangs boat ramp And plantation ruins and historical site, the area needs more jobs and more activities.

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  10. capt says

    November 6, 2019 at 7:31 am

    The county commissioners have already destroyed “anything Hammock” by allowing new developments without consideration to A1A traffic , sewer, water. They were bought out by the developers on fancy promises and the addition of new taxes by those that move in. A shame. I would rather have this boat storage and little restaurant than the approved housing developments. But we get both and more when you consider the fiasco on north A1A across from Surf Club. Yep bought and paid for.

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  11. Just say NO says

    November 6, 2019 at 8:14 am

    What a NIGHTMARE……. 240 boat slips, mechanics, heavy equipment, toilet over flows into the intra-coastal waterway. Yep, this once beautiful place will now become the next Miami.

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  12. What else is new says

    November 6, 2019 at 9:31 am

    Adam Mengle never met a developer he didn’t like, nor a monster boat facility. Starry-eyed commissioners soak up all of his unprecedented, suspicious and wrongheaded suggestions for approval, then vote against preserving and protecting the A1A corridor. Folks, pay attention to the new recruits for commission seats.

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    • Sounds great to me! says

      November 8, 2019 at 3:42 pm

      We need more businesses in Flagler County. Many people need boat storage. Those with boats have cash and spend it. There is already a large rusting warehouse that has been there forever. Put something nice there! This is nothing more than NIMBY. I swear if commenters had it their way, FC would be nothing but retired people and a Cracker Barrel. This is a growing coastal community. Let them build it.

      Reply
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