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FEMA Dollars May Not Be Enough to Rebuild Pier, State Emergency Chief Guthrie Tells Flagler Officials

November 3, 2022 | FlaglerLive | 9 Comments

Florida Emergency Management Director Kevin Guthrie, right, with Flagler Beach City Manager William Whitson during Guthrie's last visit to Flagler in mid-October, when he surveyed damage from Hurricane Ian. (© FlaglerLive)
Florida Emergency Management Director Kevin Guthrie, right, with Flagler Beach City Manager William Whitson during Guthrie’s last visit to Flagler in mid-October, when he surveyed damage from Hurricane Ian. (© FlaglerLive)

When Gov. Ron DeSantis visited Flagler County during a campaign stop in mid-October, he brought with him the man he’d appeared with every day during the Hurricane Ian emergency, the man who gave DeSantis the heft he needed to look serious and knowledgeable, rather than merely political, about what to do and how: Kevin Guthrie, the no-nonsense state director of emergency management.




It was something of a homecoming for Guthrie, who’d served as Flagler County’s emergency management director between 2013 and 2016, and would have served longer, possibly in higher roles, had the County Commission had the foresight to know what it had in him. It did not.

Guthrie left, and began making his way up the hierarchy of the state emergency division. Day after day as Hurricane Ian was bearing down on the state, then crushing its way across the peninsula, Guthrie stood alongside the governor in press conferences, providing updates and–intentionally or not–keeping the governor unusually focused on nothing but the emergency.

After the governor and the whirring cameras left Flagler Beach on Oct. 16, Guthrie stayed behind and held an informal meeting with city and county officials. Guthrie laid out what he called a 10,000-foot plan for Flagler as he spoke with the officials around the table at City Hall, among them Flagler County’s Emergency Management Director, Jonathan Lord (as effective an emergency manager as the county has ever had), Flagler Beach Mayor Suzie Johnston, City Manager William Whitson and County Commissioner Andy Dance.




Flagler Beach officials have been banking on Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) money to cover the cost of the demolition of the ravaged pier and its reconstruction as an 800-foot concrete pier. (See: “Dangerous Flagler Beach Pier Is Condemned, Demolition Moved Up As Hazards Worry City Officials.”) But Guthrie had a surprise for them. FEMA money, even when reimbursements from Hurricane Matthew and Ian are combined, may not be enough. Whitson is estimating the cost at $15 to $18 million.

“Getting back out to 800 feet,” Guthrie said, the length of the pier officials want to restore, “that’s going to have to be a Hutson-Renner combo one two, to get you back out to that,” he said, referring to Sen. Travis Hutson and Rep. Paul Renner, who represent Flagler County at the Legislature. Renner is to be the Speaker of the House when the session convenes next year. Looking at the project as needing that extra legislative push had not been part of the Flagler Beach city commission’s approach, nor its public discussions.

“Today, mayor, you and your city manager, your lobbyist, everybody needs to start thinking about: there’s going to have to be a member project, so your construction manager, your project manager for the pier, needs to be thinking” along those lines, Guthrie told the officials.

A “member project” is a more diplomatic way of saying pork. Legislators can file bills to pay for pet appropriation projects in their districts. Local officials lobby for those every year. The pier has not been on those wish lists, though dune restoration has. The lobbyists, Guthrie was now saying, must understand that “there’s a Matthew piece, there’s an Ian piece, and then there’s a state funded piece that’s got to be applied for.”




There are some benefits the city can take advantage of. “This is going to be a 90-10 storm instead of a 75-25 storm,” he said, projecting $3.4 billion in federal recovery dollars heading Florida’s way. In other words, the federal government will reimburse 90 percent of storm-related costs. That presumably goes for pier reconstruction as well. Even with the federal government kicking in 90 percent, “the state still kicks in 5 percent,” Lord said, leaving the local share to just 5 percent.

Tourism officials were not around the table, but Flagler Beach is also a likely front-runner for a Tourist Development Council capital grant that could approach the million-dollar mark, to use as part of its pier reconstruction fund. In an astounding instance of poor planning, the city missed out on any portion of a three-quarter-million dollar grant that was up for grabs this year, simply because it failed to apply for it. The entire amount went to Palm Coast to help build a sports community complex.

Guthrie urged the officials to keep copious accounts of all spending, filling in place-holders if necessary, but to keep moving forward with such things as design of the new pier and, if possible, to start construction. Last week the city commission agreed to condemn the pier, which was made unsafe for any uses by Ian, and to accelerate the demolition schedule. (See: “Dangerous Flagler Beach Pier Is Condemned, Demolition Moved Up As Hazards Worry City Officials.”)

Guthrie’s staff also addressed the ravaged dunes system up and down Flagler’s 18 miles of beaches. Repairing that system will be several times more expensive than rebuilding the pier. (See: “Catastrophic Loss: Dunes All But Gone Along Flagler’s 18-Mile Shore, Leaving A1A and Properties Dangerously Exposed.”) One of Guthrie’s retinue–several members of his staff were in the room–said the county needs to be looking at “emergency protective measure,” such as an emergency berm, filing for relief to pay for that immediately. But it’ll be competing with what Guthrie described as 7,000 ongoing missions resulting from Ian’s devastation across the state.




“Obviously we’ve got extensive damage from key West to Flagler County, so I’m trying to get myself here more, but the catastrophic damage in Fort Myers is just unfortunate,” he said, summarizing his talk with officials: “I think we’ve got path forward on trying to make something happen. I think everybody understands: Matthew, Ian, something else, which is going to involve the senator and representative on getting that something else, then we talked beaches, we talked berms, and then we talked facilities.”

Guthrie will return to Flagler yet again to be the keynote speaker at Flagler Tiger Bay’s November 16 lunch at Channel Side in Palm Coast, at 12:30 p.m. He will describe his experience managing the state through Hurricane Ian and share his advice with local officials. The informal roundtable in Flagler Beach was a preview of his talk.

And, Guthrie pledges, he will return to Flagler for good when his time is up in Tallahassee. “I love this town. I love the city and I cannot wait to come back here one day,” he said. “I said when I retire I’ll be back in Flagler, I promised that,” he said, as long as his “place” was still available.

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Comments

  1. James says

    November 3, 2022 at 1:55 pm

    Just build it long enough the money will allow!!! Why does it have to be 800 feet ?

  2. Bridge is over says

    November 3, 2022 at 2:21 pm

    Force Palm Coast Hammock Dunes Bridge, to share the cost!

  3. Rick Belhumeur says

    November 3, 2022 at 2:22 pm

    The elected officials have known since our previous city manager Larry Newsom got the $10 million dollar commitment from FEMA to build a new pier that it wouldn’t be enough money to build a 800 foot long concrete structure. The city should already have been looking for ways to fund that shortfall prior to hurricane Ian. We are in for a rude awakening once the pier engineering and cost estimates are in. The city can’t possibly start a project of this magnitude before all funding is in place which will put us way behind the advertised completion date of 2025

  4. Jimbo99 says

    November 3, 2022 at 3:46 pm

    It almost sounds like the Biden inflation for construction of anything is always 1.5 times what it used to cost anything to get done. Borderline extortion for more money really. they get one shot at making as much as they can for the rebuild ? All you have to do is revisit the Flagler Beach variability for even a Fireworks show, 25K, 60K, 100K amounts for a fireworks show that was minutes different in duration. Really, is anyone an expert as usual for cost estimation ? But repairing the pier for a garbage area is 600+K too.

  5. jake says

    November 3, 2022 at 6:00 pm

    No problem, FB is known for taxing the poor so the rich can play. If this pier is built, it will cost easily three to four times the original estimate. Hold onto your britches citizens, the “government” is about to suck your bank account dry.

  6. BMW says

    November 4, 2022 at 7:59 am

    The shortfall is not a new topic. At least not for those of us who attend and watch the Flagler Beach Commission meetings online. It is so easy to play Monday morning quarterback when one wants to distance themselves from any past responsibility. Those who engage in petty infighting and social media half truths are exactly why our little City rests without an infrastructure revitalization plan. Regardless of the delusion, the past City Manager was ineffective in his last two years and initially governed mostly under Emergency Management terms after the two major storms, the interim was not a trained City Administrator and the present City Manager has a lot of catching up to do. With that said, I’m not here to defend Mr. Whitson, only to point out one reason why the City is in such shambles. Mr. Whitson will be the first to tell you that I go straight to his office in writing with my thoughts and criticisms – just seems the most responsible and effective course of action. We all need to start playing nice in the sandbox before we totally destroy Flagler Beach.

  7. Rick says

    November 4, 2022 at 9:10 am

    After the Full moon of of July 13th, 2022,
    this article August 8th, 2022
    The pier was originally set to come down in 2023 and be replaced in time for the Flagler City centennial in 2025 at a cost of 12 million.

    Was there any planning to obtain the money for the original replacement?
    Now FEMA is offering 10 million after ian and it’s still not enough?
    Sad.

  8. David Schaefer says

    November 4, 2022 at 4:08 pm

    Thank you. Those idiots have enough money to build 100 bridges it has been paid off years ago.

  9. THE MAX says

    November 6, 2022 at 11:18 pm

    Can’t see the why of not being able to re-build the original design we had for the first few decades of being a lot longer than after the first time the end vanished during one of these storms.. Why can’t we do what our previous leaders did back in the day with wood which was fine for all those years.. But of course.. my real dream is for all of Flagler Beach to just go into the sea.. never to be seen again… LOL.. from the westside of Flagler.. THE MAX

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