The neighborhood meeting hosted in December by the developers of the proposed 1,200-home Eagle Lakes development at the south end of Old Kings Road drew only two dozen people. But their unanimity against the development as proposed–its smaller lots, its density, its variance with the ampler homes and lots proposed for the area a decade and a half ago–was prelude both for the larger crowd and the inconclusive outcome of Tuesday evening’s Flagler County Planning Board consideration of the developer’s rezoning application.
Tuesday evening there was the additional, not insignificant–and not subjective–concern about fire safety and fire infrastructure. There are disagreements over setbacks. The fire marshal wanted larger setbacks. The developer wanted lesser ones, which impede a more effective firefighting response. They were considering splitting the difference, but it wasn’t clear what that compromise would be.
The name change of the development, to “Radiant,” did not resonate much with the public. The developer is changing the name so as to disassociate with existing Eagle Lakes homes developed by a previous builder. In the end, there was too much unease for a recommendation for approval, so the matter will not head for the County Commission just yet. There, the same presentations and audiences will hit replay and a commission with two members seeking reelection will be voting.
“At this point, maybe there’s just too many things left on the table that aren’t resolved,” Planning Board member Mark Langello, a developer, said, making a motion to table the matter until March 8. He wants the county, the developer and the fire marshal to work on various disagreements. Jack Corbett, the panel’s chairman, tried to get a vote for approval, with conditions. But there was no consensus for that approach on a board that barely managed a quorum: only four members showed up for the meeting. They all voted for the delay.
The 611-acre development development spreads between Old Kings Road and I-95 east to west, and between Old Dixie Highway and past Steeple Chase Trail, south to north. The developer, the Kolter Group, split the acreage between a north and south sector–458 in the north sector, 760 in the south sector. “There’s been comments that we’re adding so many units, 400 to 500 units. That’s really not accurate,” Michael Chiumento III, the attorney representing Kolter, said. “This is the accurate way that we’d like you all to look at it.” The development had been entitled to so many homes. It shifted 149 homes from the north to the south sector.
The north end will be built in four phases, with pool, gazebo, walking trails, and open space. The south sector will be developed in five phases and will be restricted to residents 55 and older, with staffed amenities that’ll include tennis and pickle ball courts. “So we’re not only getting into a design of smaller lawns with lesser maintenance, that is what the market is asking for, according to Kolter, but because of that we now have more open space and are able to preserve more trees, have lakes and amenities for the community,” Chiumento said.
Robin Polletta, a homeowners association board member in Halifax Plantation, not far from the development, wryly set the tone of the numerous public comments that followed by reminding the board that it was Wilbur the Pig who was referred to as “radiant” in E.B. White’s Charlotte’s Web. (“Well, you’re a good little pig, and radiant you shall be,” Charlotte tells Wilbur in the book. Polletta did not quote the next line, which may as well have applied to her: “I’m in this thing pretty deep now-I might as well go the limit.”)
“I know this developments is going to happen,” she said. “But I think there’s some so many issues here regardless of setbacks and clearances between the buildings. These are basically detached condos when you’re talking about a 10-foot clearance between buildings.” She referred to fire marshal concerns, and cited the number of homes as hitting the threshold that would require the development to be more rigorously regulated as a “development of regional impact,” or DRI. She had concerns about other neighboring developments, the need for a new traffic study–and the need for a continuance.
Nancy Dance, the former owner of the property, was also among the speakers, calling on the board to stick with the original Eagle Lakes planned unit development, which would alter the number of homes and their sizes. “I understand that I don’t own Eagle Lakes Phase Two property any longer,” she said. “But my family toiled on that land for years. I had significant input on the final design, the density, the location, and with buffers, and in limiting the abutting driveway access to emergency only. I still live on what remains of the cattle ranch. This issue is very personal.” She added, “please stick to the plan. The original plan for the eagle lakes density. I’m asking that if you tonight.”
Near the three-hour mark, one of the planning board members was looking for a breakthrough of some sort. He asked the developer if he’d consider reducing the number of homes to 1,000, or 900. “I know as a developer, you don’t want us taking anything away from you,” Anthony Lombardo, a Realtor serving on the board, said. “But can you make it work?”
Eric Morrisette, Kolter’s vice president for acquisitions, walked up to the podium and put it bluntly: “Short answer is–no.” He then talked about vested units, and talked about what the market is demanding: smaller homes built around a lifestyle layout, landscaping, berms, walls, “a lot that goes into this that makes it super upscale and super beautiful.” The design drove the numbers. And there are magic numbers: “You can actually fund that at a reasonable per cost basis per house per homeowner.” The sweet spot is the number of homes proposed, accounting for the split between the north segment and the south segment of the development. “As far as the lot sizes go, we’re seeing 40 and 50-foot lots in the market rate houses all day long.”
Lombardo retorted as a Realtor and a young parent: “I’m 41 years old. I have three kids. I’m not I’m not buying a 40 foot wide lot for my family on it,” he said. “I’m not saying that you your professionals are wrong, but I’m in real estate for a pretty long time. I have a pretty good idea what what the 40 year olds and what families want, and that’s probably not what it is. I mean, we want amenities. We want nice houses. But we want our kids to be able to play in yards and you know, run around the streets and all that stuff.”
What Lombardo wasn’t taking into account is the message the Home Builders Association’s top officials drilled into the heads of the Flagler County School Board and the Flagler County Commission, in the same chamber, just months ago, as the school board was proposing to raise development impact fees on homes to defray the cost of new schools: young people with families are not moving to Flagler. Overwhelmingly, and for the past decade, the population increase has been driven by older people–the people Morrisette was referring to, and is building for.
It so happened that Morrisette is represented by the same attorney who was at the homebuilders’ side, arguing their points, as he did Morrisette’s Tuesday evening. Morrisette listened to Lombardo, hands in pocket, lips pursed: the look of someone worn by a too-familiar refrain, being told how to do his job by someone telling him he wasn’t telling him how to do his job. Nevertheless, Lombardo, who ascribed his analysis to his gut, was just as certainly reflecting local sentiment. By definition, the people whose homes Morrisette is building aren’t here yet, and those who are would most likely be leaving larger homes to move into smaller ones.
Beyond that, it was up to Assistant County Attorney Sean Moylan to remind board members, if not in so many words, that they had to dispense with their gut feelings but to stick to “the standard that you have to rely on as you exercise your discretion.” In this case, the board could only vote on whether the proposed development “does not affect adversely the orderly development of Flagler County and complies with the comprehensive plan,” even if “a lot of that is in the eye of the beholder.” Board members can also consider whether the development will affect the health and safety of neighbors, or be detrimental to adjacent properties.
Percy's mother says
Regarding the neighborhood meetings hosted by developers, where is notification of these meetings publicized??? I don’t recall seeing any public notification about the neighborhood meeting in December OR for that matter any notification regarding ANY neighborhood meeting hosted by ANY developer.
Neighborhood meetings hosted by developers should be made public by ALL accepted means of communication, and that includes newspaper (Palm Coast Observer AND for those who still read it, the Daytona Beach News-Journal), AS WELL AS all forms of accepted social media (Facebook, YouTube, etc), AS WELL AS local online news websites (FlaglerLive, etc.)
I keep pretty current with what’s going on in Palm Coast and Flagler County, but I never seem to see or hear any notification about all these developer hosted neighborhood meetings.
Perhaps that’s why some (most) of these developer hosted neighborhood meetings are so poorly attended . . . Basically no one knows about them.
Pierre, would you follow up on this particular issue and write something about how these developer hosted neighborhood meetings are publicized. People in Palm Coast and Flagler County are disgusted with the amount of development going on. I’m sure if WE ALL knew about these meetings, they would be standing room only. But “they” don’t really want that do they?
I will follow up with another post because I have much more disgust to post about this and our planning board and it’s members but I’ll do that via my PC / desktop in the morning.
Bob says
Well said and I agree. It seems the developers want to sneak through the cracks and get their developments approved before the public even knows about it. It’s the greed money train running through this county that will be its demise. Let the public know of these meetings so at least we can all be educated and work together to do what’s best for Flagler county!! Bob K resident and yes older one
Jane Gentile-Youd says
My gut feeling : too many people to dare approve Shoebox homes which at 1,000 under air Square feet are smaller than some single family homes. The money grabbing plan is totally inconsistent,incompatible with the current residential communities in addition to having a negative impact on the welfare and safety of the residents of both Volusia and Flagler Counties. The Chair never timed the applicants at the 15 minutes he announced. He tried to sponsor a new motion which he should never do as Chair without relinquishing the gavel.to the Vice Chair and it is a no no to make new motion while a current motion is on the floor. Oh yes. Lots of people in the county need to research ‘Quasi-judicial ‘ rules. If a group of objectors has an official spokesperson I believe they are entitled to a rebuttal not just 3.minutes.
I am hoping my gut feeling that the ‘continuance’ vote came from the hearts of the 3 ( other than the transparent Chair in opinion) and not fashioned on the age old political ploy ‘wear them out until they go away’ … . As a current Florida real estate broker and Realtor since 1986 I can attest that the hearsay comments by Adam Mengel as well as Michael Chiumento that the market shows people want smaller homes is a blatant outright misrepresentation of all studies proving that since COVID with more people working from homes as well as quarantine and isolation so common people all over the country are looking for LARGER not smaller homes…
Whew thank you FlaglerLive for your open minded gracious Comment section for your readers to vent our personal opinions. Thank you so very much.
Cindy says
Jane you are spot on in your comment! Pay attention people your elected Mayor is also a real estate broker. All bets off for the all mighty dollar, in a county where we can’t build houses fast enough. They sneek it in with as little public notice as possible! Yet, its ok for their pet projects not follow the guidelines of their 2035 land development code, yet others need to. It’s a set up by the entire city and planning board, all agreed on before any resident approached the podium. None of their studys are done by a third unbiased party. This city is replacing every tree with sub par high, density housing! Good luck keeping those values up when the housing boom in Flagler County is over. I’ve seen it happen being a real estate broker over 30+yrs. The greedy developer will go bankrupt before he can finish it, you’ll see!
Jane Gentile-Youd says
Oops 1,000 square feet smaller than some GARAGES in single family homes.
Robin says
The PUD application needs to be split into two PUD applications separate, and only then should the rezoning be considered.
A DRI (Direct Regional Impact Study) should be ordered by Mr. Mengel’s office as well.
Keep Flagler Beautiful says
Chiumento isn’t just an attorney who represents developers; he’s also an accomplished tap dancer. At the meeting, he sort of mumbled a low affirmative reply when asked if local residents had been made aware of Kolter’s plan to replace a traffic light at the entrance of the proposed mega-development with a roundabout. He said yes. The truth is just the opposite. I didn’t conduct a poll, but no one I know who was at the meeting had heard a thing about it. Chiumento also made it sound like all of the houses were going to be large luxury homes, when in fact the application for the variance states that houses could be as small as 1,000 square feet — around the size of a double garage! The proposed development (“Radiant” is as dumb a name as I’ve ever heard) is far too dense for the area. The 2.2-mile stretch of Old Kings Road between the Publix intersection on Old Dixie Highway and the proposed entrance to “Radiant” has at least 14 turn-ins and road entrances — I stopped counting at 14. The traffic exiting and entering I-95 adjacent to Publix is already a hazard, especially when there’s an accident. And when that traffic comes to a halt as emergency vehicles attempt to access I-95, it creates a nightmare for local residents. If Kolter’s plan were approved, that 2.2-mile stretch would become one of the most congested and dangerous roads in this region and maybe in all of Florida. The current approved PUD is bad enough in terms of the traffic and negative environmental impact, but if the variance is approved, there will be no positive outcome except for the developers. I hope the officials we have elected to do the right thing for Flagler County will do just that and say NO to the variance, which is just a money grab at the expense of those residing in some of the area’s nicest communities.