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Senate Approves Stand Your Ground Change To Make It Easier For Shooters To Use Defense

| March 15, 2017

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A move to shift a key burden of proof in “stand your ground” self-defense cases was approved Wednesday by the Senate, as other key bills backed by Second Amendment advocates remain jammed in the Legislature’s upper chamber.


With Democrats labeling the self-defense proposal “a shoot to kill” and “how to get away with murder” bill, the National Rifle Association-backed measure (SB 128) was approved in a 23-15 vote, with Sen. Anitere Flores, R-Miami, joining Democrats in opposition.

Flores, a top lieutenant to Senate President Joe Negron, has become a roadblock to other high-profile bills backed by gun-rights groups, including a measure that would allow people with concealed weapons to openly carry firearms (SB 644) and to carry on university and college campuses (SB 622). Those bills have not made it through the Senate Judiciary Committee, which includes Flores.

Flores said her vote on the “stand your ground” bill was swayed after talking to state attorneys from her South Florida district, which covers Monroe County and parts of Miami-Dade County.

“There’s going to be a cost to the state attorneys, and now I have two state attorneys who are calling and concerned, and you just have to take those things into account,” Flores said.

Flores had voted for the proposal Feb. 9 when it was before the Rules Committee and Jan. 24 in the Judiciary Committee.

Sen. Rob Bradley, a Fleming Island Republican who is sponsoring the measure, said the potential for increased costs shouldn’t be what drives lawmakers on the issue.

“We should be focused on what is the right thing for our criminal justice system, not dollars and cents when it comes to fundamental principles,” Bradley said.

A House version of the bill (HB 245) needs to clear the House Judiciary Committee before it could go to the House floor. A similar proposal failed to advance last year in the House after getting Senate approval.

The proposal, backed by the Florida Public Defender Association, stems from a Florida Supreme Court ruling in 2015 that said defendants have the burden of proof to show they should be shielded from prosecution under the “stand your ground” law.

In “stand your ground” cases, pre-trial evidentiary hearings are held to determine whether defendants should be immune from prosecution. The bill would shift the burden from defendants to prosecutors in the pre-trial hearings.

Bradley, who believes the bill has support this year in the House, said he wouldn’t have moved forward with the proposal if he believed the change in law would allow guilty people to go free.

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“If I thought for one second that this bill would encourage people to engage in criminal behavior, because the bill created some sort of loophole in the law that allowed someone to engage in criminal behavior without consequences, I would have no part of this bill,” Bradley said.

Sen. Dennis Baxley, an Ocala Republican who in 2005 sponsored the “stand-your-ground” law while serving in the House, called the proposal one of the most important of the legislative session that started March 7.

“I don’t think anybody in our state should be beaten, raped, murdered, simply because they were afraid to act, and stand against a violent act,” Baxley said. “Interestingly, there is not a firearm in this bill. I don’t care if you use a chair leg; you have the right and even the responsibility under our brand of freedom to stop a violent act if you can.”

In its 2015 ruling, the Supreme Court majority opinion — written by Justice Barbara Pariente — said immunity in the “stand your ground” law “is not a blanket immunity, but rather, requires the establishment that the use of force was legally justified.”

“We conclude that placing the burden of proof on the defendant to establish entitlement to Stand Your Ground immunity by a preponderance of the evidence at the pretrial evidentiary hearing, rather than on the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant’s use of force was not justified, is consistent with this court’s precedent and gives effect to the legislative intent,” said the majority opinion.

But a dissenting opinion, written by Justice Charles Canady and joined by Justice Ricky Polston, countered that the majority ruling “substantially curtails the benefit of the immunity from trial conferred by the Legislature under the Stand Your Ground law.”

“The factual question raised by the assertion of Stand Your Ground immunity in a pretrial evidentiary hearing is the same as the factual question raised by a Stand Your Ground defense presented at trial: whether the evidence establishes beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant’s conduct was not justified under the governing statutory standard,” Canady wrote.

Sen. Darryl Rouson, D-St. Petersburg, said Bradley’s bill puts the dissenting views of the two conservative justices into law.

“I welcome the day when the dissent in the Senate chamber can run the Senate chamber,” Rouson said. “What we’re doing elevates the dissent to where it would rule the land in the state of Florida. And I don’t think that’s right.”

The “stand your ground” law has long been controversial. It says people can use deadly force and do not have a duty to retreat if they think it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm.

Critics of Bradley’s bill, including the Florida Prosecuting Attorneys Association and the Florida Coalition Against Domestic Violence, have argued it would put an end to cases before all the facts are revealed. They also contend the “stand your ground” law has disproportionate effects on minorities, as it is used more successfully as a defense when white shooters kill African-Americans.

Sen. Gary Farmer, D-Fort Lauderdale, said shifting the burden of proof in “stand your ground” cases would incentivize people involved in shooting incidents to leave no witnesses.

“Dead men tell no tales,” Farmer said. “That’s a phrase that goes back to pirate days, and that’s why pirates were so ruthless, and that’s why pirates made sure that everyone died, so they could tell no tales.”

–Jim Turner, News Service of Florida

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10 Responses for “Senate Approves Stand Your Ground Change To Make It Easier For Shooters To Use Defense”

  1. Harrison H. McDonald PE says:

    Dead men can’t tell tails to a tort lawyer to invent a theory why their victim should support them for the rest of their life. Many victims have be killed by assailants they thought to be dead. if you or your loved ones are threatened and fear for your/their life or great bodily harm Act in the best interest of yourself and your family. Never confront a threat with a gun if you are not prepared to effectively use it. The only shot/s that guarantees to protects you and your family renders the assailant dead. Race has NO bearing on this situation.

  2. RickG says:

    Insanity once again prevails in the State Legislature

  3. Brian says:

    Good stuff here – another step toward making America safe again!

  4. Bill says:

    As it should be. Has NOT the burden of proof always been put on to Government when charging a person with a crime?? So why would the same not have always applied in classes such as these? If a crime is committed it is up to the Government to prove you did the crime NOT for you to prove you did NOT commit a crime.

  5. Knightwatch says:

    Oh, no… Florida citizens will soon have even more of a reason to settle old grudges, end arguments or just get angry for the moment at daily annoyances and shoot anybody they want. Ever see a dead person get up and defend their actions? Ever see a dead person testify in court against their killer?

    This is another obscene Republican legislative effort to reward the rampant anger and aggression in their followers.

  6. ed james says:

    about time ,this came about..innocent until proven guilty right??!!

  7. JasonB says:

    Welcome to Trump’s Amerikkka …

  8. no says:

    Actual sense. Those who oppose are simply let’s say..liberals

  9. Geezer says:

    Why argue when you can simply open fire? D’uh…

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