The Volusia Flagler Family YMCA is working with Palm Coast Mayor David Alfin and a corps of local community members to bring a YMCA to Palm Coast, with a rough goal of having a local facility under construction or near completion in about two years.
The city may donate land. The city, with the YMCA, is working to secure capital seed money from the legislature. The YMCA is establishing a local advisory board, with two members already spearheading the effort, and will build both fund-raising campaign from that basis and seek public input on what the local Y should provide, since all Y’s are uniquely tailored to the community they serve: there are no cookie-cutter Ys. But an aquatic center appears assured, that being the Y trademark.
“I’d love to be up here in two years, but I don’t know if that is too fast because construction takes time,”: said Volusia Flagler YMCA President and CEO Chris Seilkop. “All I can tell you is that this is a priority for the YMCA. The timeline, we do not have control over. We want to be up here as soon as we can. But I can’t tell you what that looks like.”
Palm Coast, Alfin said, is Alfin: “certainly ripe” for a YMCA, 12 years after it lost one. Seilkop and Alfin outlined the vision and plan in an hour-long interview at Alfin’s City Hall office on Thursday.
If successful–and neither Seilkop nor Alfin think it would not be–a YMCA in Palm Coast, especially with a swimming pool, would reconfigure both Palm Coast’s and the Flagler County School Board’s ongoing debates over whether and how to modernize their own swimming pools, or even, in the case of the school district’s Belle Terre Swim and Racquet Club, whether to close it to public uses. A Y in town would make those decisions easier.
“So if we can create a win win win,” Seilkop said, “it’s a win for the city because they can relieve a financial burden, a win for the community because they get additional services, and then a win for YMCA because we have a home now that we can provide services. So if we create a win win win, then that’s the best case scenario and that’s kind of our goal here. We’ve done this before.”
How soon? “That really depends on the partners. That depends on the city’s timeline,” Seilkop said.
For the record: the Volusia Flagler YMCA is not interested in taking over the Belle Terre Club, both because the facility is too old, and the location to restrictive: YMCAs like to have room for expansion. But its location and the services of the local Y will depend on what the community wants and needs, at a time when the closest Y is in Ormond Beach.
That 35,000 square foot YMCA is “busting at the seems,” Seilkop said, with its membership growing 68 percent just in the last 10 months, after having registered 6,000 members the day it reopened its doors after a renovation. Facilities can be anywhere from 20,000 square feet to 60,000 square feet or more. They can cost $12 million to $18 million. The Ormond facility employs five full-time workers and 70 to 100 part-timers.
“We’re trying to bring as many partners to the table as possible,” Seilkop said. “So we’re talking to anyone who’s interested about hey, here’s our vision. Here’s what we want to do. Do you want to come along and be a part of it. So it’s just a city or a YMCA venture. We’re trying to have a big tent and see how many other organization may want to come along and participate.”
Input would be sought through a needs-assessment, talks with stakeholders, and market studies both the Y and the city have conducted or are conducting. Seilkop through his own meetings has gotten the sense that the community wants an aquatics center, indoor and outdoor sports–there are no indoor basketball or volleyball courts except at school campuses, which are not always easily accessible–and summer camps.
“The city is is unable to to execute or bring forward an initiative like this on its own. It doesn’t have the expertise, the know-how or the experience someone like Chris does. So I’ve reached out to Chris to help us,” along two prongs. First, Seilkop is identifying locations, including some that the city owns and could donate. Second, Seilkop and Alfin are speaking with Volusia and Flagler County’s legislative delegations to secure seed funding for the project. The current ask is for $3 million for the Volusia Flagler YMCA, $1 million of which would be earmarked for the Flagler project. “There are monies available on a cyclical basis to support Y projects,” Alfin said.
“At the conclusion of this session, we’ll have hopefully some momentum to look at the possibility of a tight timeline,” Seilkop said. “The other thing the YMCA bringing to the table is the ability to get private donations. So our goal is to tackle this from a fiscal standpoint from a number of different directions. It’s from state funding, but also doing some private funding to get this moving.”
Alfin, who plans to attach the YMCA project to coming discussions on the city’s comprehensive plan, favors a Y in Town center. That may not be the Y’s approach: “You want to be someplace close to the rooftops, you build Y’s where people live, not really where they work,” Seilkop said.
Either way, while there’d been some consideration for waiting until West Palm Coast is developed to place a Y there, “we have made a decision to move forward at the speed we can within the traditional geography of Palm Coast,” Alfin said. “Our residents, our children, our older folks deserve and need that service now. That doesn’t preclude us from doing something big and wonderful on the other side down the road. But I’m not waiting. We’re doing it now.”
In the 1980s YUSA, the parent corporation of the YMCA, opened a branch in Palm Coast. It didn’t last long. In 2002 the Y’s Greater Daytona Association opened a Y at what was then Florida Hospital Flagler (today’s AdventHealth Palm Coast). The lease was not renewed in 2011 despite having 900 memberships serving 1,200 people.
The Volusia/Flagler YMCA has been looking to return since. Its 26-member board has made that return a priority, Seilkop said. “The mayor has been a huge advocate on this project. He seeded the vision,” he said. “We’ve been talking with a number of different individuals in this community about bringing a Y up here.”
The Y would also be a benefit to the growing presence of the University of North Florida and Jacksonville University in Palm Coast, to the growing corps of health care employees–with the new AdventHealth hospital opening in August on Palm Coast Parkway–and with prospective residents and businesses. The city’s demographics have been skewing older rapidly since the 2010 census. Alfin would like to reverse that trend to a degree, and make the city more appealing to families.
“I am trying to find every way I can to respect the aging community that we have here in Palm Coast, but to help change the demographic skew, which points towards an aging demographic, and bring in the amenities and the magnet for younger families and younger career minded professionals for the community, of which the frontier and westward expansion are full of that concept.” He said “A city that doesn’t have balance and doesn’t offer a balanced set of amenities is doomed in the long term.”
The Y offers programming for all demographics, from preschool all the way up to seniors, a programming referred to as cradle to grave: swimming lessons for infants to group exercise, stretching classes for seniors and everything in between such as sports, summer camps, day care, adult swim lessons. Pools, Seilkop said, “are in our DNA.”
It is also a founding principle at the Y that no one will be turned away for lack of ability to pay. Users either pay full fare or pay what they can. The Y’s fund-raising campaigns focus on capital and for financial assistance that helps offset what some users cannot pay. In Volusia County last year, the Y gave out over $260,000, enabling children and families to participate in programs at the Y.
That ecumenical, giving aspect of the Y–one of the reasons its brand is beloved and almost immune to negativity–is a particular attraction to Alfin.
“I’m deeply concerned about the the divisiveness and the separation in our community as we step forward into another election cycle,” the mayor, who’s dealt with the divisiveness first hand at the council, said. “What Chris was saying with the philosophy and the vision of the Y is that they don’t turn away anybody: this is a place now where everybody can be a part of a unified, coherent, cohesive, help-each-other community. You can’t find many places like that anymore. And nobody, nobody pushes back on that.”
BMW says
Two people who understand what community is all about.
G A says
Bring it!!
Dona says
I sure hope it caters to the trans community. It would be wonderful for this YMCA to be themed around the trans and LGBTQ community. I think the name needs to go though it’s not very inclusive.
Great idea Dona says
Sure thats a great idea, Was 18 million, but now in addition to a boys room and a girls room, we’ll need a bathroom for Grown men who identify and dress like little girls, and a fourth bathroom for the women who take testosterone treatments to grow beards and identify as men. So might as well build another 2 dressing rooms why your at it, don’t want to be non inclusive or piss off this new super race of humans we all must cater to now. Wait all of this is downright insulting to the “Pats” who are gender neutral (Watch your pronouns people!!!)were gonna have to build a whole other bath/changing room for these androids. Go Work and Go Broke! And lets talk about the pool facilities, My kid is certainly not showering /changing near or bathing in the same facility or aids infested water some tranny homosexual man just swam in, Sorry do what you want but thats just gross! Multiple pools please. Otherwise You’ll need to pay someone to follow these people around with pool shock. Don’t like the name?? We’ll just call it the LBGQXYZ and have the Village People (How much can they possibly cost to rent now?) come and write a new song and play it at our grand opening.
Aves says
Have you ever had your kid swim in either of the public Palm Coast pools? Or in the ocean? I can basically guarantee unless they’ve only swum in your own pool, they’ve probably been in a pool with a “tr*nny homosexual”. I mean, I’m trans and bisexual, and I swum at Frieda Zamba for 22 summers.
al says
Why would you expect the YMCA to be “themed” around the trans community. This is part of the problem…..the trans community is less than 1% of the population. Most people are not against trans or lgbtq peoples….. they are against the idea that the other 99% are expected to cater to there demands.
Aves says
Having a unisex changing room or restroom option to accommodate people to safely and legally change in the bathrooms would be a good thing for this facility to do. Especially given the bathroom ban bill the legislature is working on. Otherwise it’s excluding a group of people from being able to use it. Even if trans folk are less than 1% of the population, that’s still fairly close to the proportion of Jewish or red-haired individuals, and bans on “no Jews in the changing rooms” would be incredibly problematic given particular history. (And note that LGBTQ roundups, banning in public spaces, and destruction of all books and research into them happened at the same time…)
JOE D says
Sounds exciting……but “seed “ money from the State Legislature? Private donation ability sounds great. How much ( if any) financing from the City/County? Location (Government “donated” land)? Cost of anticipated local private memberships? Why did the prior Palm Coast “Y” close a decade ago?
Would like to see such questions answered BEFORE such a grand project is undertaken….Especially the one about why THIS version of the “Y” would be successful when the one a decade ago did not remain?
It would ESPECIALLY be an advantage to bringing young professionals with FAMILIES to the area. Worth investigating…
Ria says
So-o excited!! I learned to swim at a Y in
New York.
My brother and I were only two; of hundreds of children that had received Certificates..completing our Class time.
We had a great Swim Instructor!
Lots of good knowledge and lots of fun…
If you need help, please contact me.
Denise Calderwood says
This is another example of not knowing the full story. In between the first Y at the now Palm Coast Community Center, which by the way was the first YMCA ever built to specifications of the Y by a private corporation, ITT and then abandoned since local funding could not be sustained by the then population. In 1998, a concerned group lobbied the Volusia/Flagler Y to come back and they stayed on in a limited capacity in a shared space with five other organizations in partnership with Family Matters of Flagler, until the hospital gave them free space…..and when the Y left the space at the hospital, abandoning Flagler again mid year, they told those active Flagler members that they had to use the DeLand Y and not the Closer Ormond Y….Be careful Palm Coast this is another example of using our resources to aid Volusia residents….if it is for a Flagler Ask then all of the money should go just to Flagler County with maybe some administrative dollars going to Volusia for oversight… Fellow citizens please please wake up and pay attention to what is going on again spending money we don’t have and giving what future money we are eligible for to go to support the Volusia agencies that say they will serve our county. When is enough enough?
Celia Pugliese says
I do not see the bright side of it as already a YMCA failed in this county and Palm Coast. Lets do not look for the excuse to shut down the Belle Terre Swim Club to the membership given their grandfathering use law, for a promise in the air. We need the Belle Terre pool open for the membership and the growing community! This vision looks quiet costly! If the Y fail one, what reassurances we have now. I agree with Denise…We may choke again with a too big morsel…have not recover yet from the millions wasted in the still closed Holland plash park…very costly to our hard earned taxes.
Florida Girl says
YESsss!! Please bring it with so little for our children/grandchildren to do in this town!! I spent endless amounts of time at the YMCA in Ohio with my mom. It was a win-win for both of us. It really was.
Wow says
Now I see another motive in the push to close Belle Terre Racquet Club.
The dude says
While I would welcome this if I was going to be here in two years, I doubt it will actually happen. I’ve been a Y member most my adult life until recently when we moved here.
Sarasota couldn’t support a Y, they recently closed theirs.
This shithole country that is Palm Coast certainly won’t be able to keep one open.