Last Updated: Saturday, 11:30 a.m.
Update: The New York Times, the Associated Press, ABC News, Fox News, CNN and other networks called the race for Joe Biden shortly after 11:30 Saturday. Joe Biden was elected the 46th president of the United States, with Kamala Harris the first-ever woman–the first Black, the first Indian-American–vice-president.
Biden Nears 270. Trump Peddles Disinformation.
Friday, 5:07 p.m.—Biden was winning the popular vote by more than 4 million votes, with Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes poised to vault him over the 270 needed to win, though he had several other avenues to get there based on current counts. The counts, however, continue, as do White House wrangles over the results.
Decision Desk called the election for Biden at 9 this morning and the Associated Press and Fox News called Arizona for Biden, giving him 264 electoral votes. Nevada–where Biden’s lead doubled today and few ballots remain to enable Trump to make a comeback–is all but certain to be called for Biden by the weekend, ensuring a Biden win. But the major networks and national papers have yet to call Arizona or other states where counts are continuing.
The historic ticket anticipates an end, starting on Jan. 20, to the most fractious, vitriolic and norm-breaking presidency of the last 230 years, but likely not an end to weeks of litigation and rhetorical warfare until then. The election also underscores the depth of divisions far surpassing those that followed the elections of 2000 and 2016 on several levels: Democrats failed to improve their majority in the House of Representatives, where they are expected to lose several seats, or take the Senate, though they have made some gains there. Divided government will continue, as it has since Republicans lost the House in 2018.
Even if he loses Trump is not about to fold up his movement and retire to Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach but rather capitalize on his popularity and title as the more than titular head of a party that has no replacement yet. Republican gains in state houses will have far-reaching implications in redistricting ahead and subsequent elections. And just as the tea party movement emerged in reaction to the Obama presidency, setting the stage for momentous Democratic reversals in 2010, it would not be surprising if a mirror movement emerged ahead of the 2022 election. Neither Democrats nor Republicans are on sure ground regarding the nature and future of their respective parties, giving both an opening to redefine themselves and, potentially, the future of the nation.
The days and weeks ahead, however, may be defined by the unprecedented: a president who may refuse to concede despite a legitimate election’s overwhelming numbers against him and a void of evidence suggesting anything like widespread fraud.
Biden was poised to defeat Donald Trump by winning back three states Hillary Clinton had lost–Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania–and vaulting ahead enough to flip Georgia and Arizona. Since World War II, the only times Arizona went for a Democratic president were in 1996 (Bill Clinton) and 1948 (Harry Truman). Georgia last voted for a Democratic president in 1992 (Clinton). All morning Friday Biden’s leads were growing in Georgia, Pennsylvania and Nevada. His lead in Arizona was shrinking, but not substantially. Biden was on pace to win 306 electoral votes, the same number Trump won in 2016, but with a clear majority of the American popular vote (Trump won just 45 percent in 2016), and a vote margin exceeding Clinton’s 3 million by at least 1 million so far.
Trump won 7 million more votes than he did four years ago, but Biden was winning 8 million more votes than Clinton had in 2016, even when she had the largest popular vote majority of any losing candidate in the country’s history.
Starting in early evening Thursday with a statement in the White House briefing room, Trump has been peddling disinformation, casting aspersions on election workers, de-legitimizing the results, repeatedly lying about the process, including claims that vote-counting was taking place in secret, away from poll observers, and fabricating claims of fraud. Trump is not providing evidence. Republican leaders have been largely silent.
“If you count the legal votes, I easily win,” Trump said at the beginning of his 16-minute statement Thursday evening. “If you count the illegal votes, they can try to steal the election from us. If you count the votes that came in late – we’re looking at them very strongly, a lot of votes came in late.” The statement was a rank falsehood, unsupported either by elections officials in the field or by Trump or his campaign. Trump also dog-whistled: “They’re trying to rig an election, and we can’t let that happen,” he said. “Detroit and Philadelphia – known as two of the most corrupt political places anywhere in our country.” Unusually for Trump, he mostly read his statement from prepared notes, suggesting that his words were more restrained than they otherwise would have been.
Philadelphia Commissioner Omar Sabir saw it differently today as he thanked election workers and others. “I think it’s safe to say that democracy has won. Democracy is beautiful. We saw the statue of Octavius Catto right out City Hall, where he died so that Americans have access to the democratic process.” Catto, a Black Philadelphia abolitionist and civil rights leader, had led the desegregation of the city’s public trolleys and the effort to end voting discrimination. He was murdered at age 32 outside his home on Election Day in 1871, the first election in which Blacks could vote in Philadelphia. The murder was part of Irish Democrats’ violent intimidation tactics as they opposed Reconstruction, Black suffrage and Republican candidates, back when the GOP still glowed with Lincoln’s liberalism and Democrats, before their century-late conversion, were the party of bigotry and xenophobia.
“And as we stand here today, in 2020,” Sabir said, “people still have access to democracy. That’s a beautiful thing. Ignore a lot of the noise that’s going on. Allow us to complete the counting process.”
Trump’s statements, which continued Friday on Twitter and were echoed and amplified even more stridently by his children’s Twitter feeds, were beginning to draw criticism and near-denunciations only by midday Friday, from fellow-Republicans, and even then, by Republicans with a record of rejecting Trump’s scorched-earth style of politics. “The President is within his rights to request recounts, to call for investigation of alleged voting irregularities where evidence exists, and to exhaust legal remedies,” Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, who lost a bid for the presidency in 2012, said in a statement he posted to his Twitter feed in early afternoon. “[D]oing these things is consistent with our election process. He is wrong to say that the election was rigged, corrupt and stolen–doing so damages the cause of freedom here and around the world, weakens the institutions that lie at the foundation of the Republic, and recklessly inflames destructive and dangerous passions.”
Rep. Adam Kinzinger, an Illinois Republican with a record of Trump criticism, was equally sharp: “We want every vote counted, yes every legal vote (of course). But, if you have legit concerns about fraud present EVIDENCE and take it to court. STOP Spreading debunked misinformation,” he wrote. “This is getting insane.”
The majority of Republicans in Congress and in the states largely maintained a complicit silence, while Mitch McConnell, the Republican Senate leader, spoke in terms similar to Trump’s, but milder: ““Here’s how this must work in our great country: Every legal vote should be counted. Any illegally-submitted ballots must not. All sides must get to observe the process. And the courts are here to apply the laws & resolve disputes. That’s how Americans’ votes decide the result.”
“This is part of a broader misinformation campaign that involves some political theater,” Bob Bauer, a senior adviser to Biden, told reporters in widely reported comments. “All of this is intended to create a large cloud that it is the hope of the Trump campaign that nobody can see through. But it is not a very thick cloud, it’s not hard to see what they’re doing — we see through it; so will the courts, and so will election officials.”
A social media push to echo Trump’s claims emerged Wednesday in the form of “Stop the Steal” or “Stop the Count” groups, some of them shut down by Facebook for inciting violence. A local version of the groups was reflected in one site’s call for a “Lowe Train” march at City Hall Saturday to “show whom [sic.] we want to be the mayor,” a reference to Alan Lowe, who lost to incumbent Milissa Holland by a 53-47 margin. There is no evidence of fraud locally, either.
Lowe himself, who issued a gracious concession statement and congratulations to Holland at dawn the day after the election and has been reacting more respectfully than the president, was discouraging his followers from raising heckles over the results. “For everyone mentioning a recount,” he wrote on his Facebook page on Thursday, “Although we all feel things aren’t right, a recount will cost between $15-20k. It is cost prohibitive and I do not believe it will change things. I am going to keep involved and will fight for the people. I am not going away.” He added: “PS. Let us concentrate our time and money on issues and things that we can make positive change with. A recount most likely will change nothing.”
As in other counties across Florida, the Supervisor of Elections in Flagler reported results swiftly and flawlessly. Record-breaking mail-in numbers of ballots had been tabulated in the days and hours leading up to the 7 p.m. poll-closing time, and were released literally within minutes of 7 p.m. Craig Latimer, the Supervisor of Elections in Hillsborough County and president of the Florida Supervisors of Elections Association, called the state a “shining star” of the election in comments disseminated by Kaiti Lenhart, Flagler’s supervisor.
“In Florida, Vote By Mail was already trusted by about a third of our electorate, who regularly choose this method of voting. In 2020, more Floridians gained confidence in Vote By Mail because we spent a lot of time educating voters on how it works,” Latimer said. Yet here in Florida, election after election, we can’t seem to escape the shadow of the hanging chad. It’s frustrating when people look at Florida through the lens of the 2000 election. That was 20 years ago. Three tabulation systems ago. Back in the day, when we still went to Blockbuster to rent movies. Instead, let’s start looking forward – through the lens of this 2020 election. In 2020, we conducted elections in Florida that were efficient, accessible, convenient, reliable and safe, all in the midst of a pandemic. Things couldn’t have gone better.”
The party of “F*ck Your Feelings* sure seem to have a LOT of feelings about these election results. American voters decided to give Trump the full 2020 experience: he got COVID, and soon he’ll be unemployed.
So There says
Seems your vote didn’t matter here in Florida.
Lance Carroll says
Seems like everybody’s vote didn’t matter here. That is the reality.
E. Hoffa says
There is nothing wrong with POTUS Trump wanting only legal votes counted! True Americans want Fair and Honest Elections! Biden has proven as a VP that he will NOT stop Russian and Communist China’s EVIL expansion! The China Communist Party has officially stated it wanted Biden as POTUS!
Yeah well looks to me so didnt the Majority of American Voters so whats your point. Deal with it. He can count recount. The dye is cast. He blew it for himself. Lets move on and forget about Donnie
Trump is a Compromised Putin Stooge…and is in debt to China..boy are you Trumpers dumb
Regardless of who we get, what will really change ? Biden believes that everyone should, as a right to have “Badakathcare”, what exactly is that gibberish, certainly not any binding campaign promise. And let’s see the generously grandiose plan for Coronavirus relief for the masses ? Pelosi denied that before the election. We have who we have in office, if they’re any better than the R’s it’s time to prove it. The next 3 months are dead in the water for a vaccine for Coronavirus. I mean what it would like if one were to be available before Biden could take credit for it as even be inaugurated ? So we won’t see that until next Summer or Fall even ? And then the vaccine/miracle cure will arrive just in time ? If they couldn’t get one during Trump to now, we surely won’t see one until well into next year.
Enjoy your Badakathcare. the Biden & Harris Christmas gift for all of us. Sounds like a box of Holiday nuts & chocolates for all.
Biden my Time says
I’ll take a leader with a speech impediment over a self inflated failed businessman who invests in building conspiracy theories so he can sell them to his followers.
Deborah Coffey says
You believed 25,000 Trump lies and now…a doctored video? A+ in gullibility!
Biden isn’t that swift. He doesn’t realize the Continental army took command of airports during the Revolutionary war. Or that the pandemic of 1917 ended WW2 30+years later. He probably is unaware of who Tim Apple is. Hopefully Biden’s AG will dig deep into the oranges of the Mueller investigation and get to cleaning up the floors of our forests.
One thing he is good at disinformation. Its over and he knows it. Recount it . Then you lose twice. Good Riddance
Yep, for a change, the focus of any recounts aren’t solely Broward County FL. In past flawed elections, they couldn’t recount those manually with the time remaining. I would imagine, that unless the ballots are like dollar bills, watermarked and whatever else for counterfeiting, I would think the scanning of them would filter out counterfeit/fraudulent ballots ?
So we’re back to software issues and hard drive data transfer issues. This should be a slam dunk pretty much. Just the other day, I loaded 14.3 million records contained in 22 csv files into a newly created datatbase with zero errors with a 10 year old desktop computer in an unrelated to the election process SQL Server database that might have taken the time it takes a chain smoker to smoke a cigarette to load with a modelling database that I created on the fly. Just a perspective, that’s nearly 1/10 of all of the US votes of 145 million counted per Google search (Biden 75 million Trump 70 million). Further perspective the state of FL had under 11 million total votes. I can load & tabulate that much data in about 3 minutes, error free with more complex data than scantron responses contained on a ballot. Election database tables, regardless of company handling them are uniformly standardized. This is nothing more than bulk loading regionally into linked databases. If every retailer can submit credit card sales nationally & internationally & relatively error free, the voting process shouldn’t be that hard.
Please run for office. We need you & your brain!
Edith Campins says
No, we are back on the facts not your outdated, old hat data gibberish. Let there be recounts, the results won’t change. Let trump show proof of all the voting fraud he keeps taking about, like so many other lies he has told, he hasn’t any proof. Did he ever say what river all those ballots were dumped in? His false statements are an insult to every elections staff person who does their job with competence and integrity. His assumption that because not every single part of the ballot processing wasn’t wacthed by observers it has been done unfairlyis ridiculous and offensive.
Only Me says
If the votes were in donald’s favor he would be feeding his base that the votes are not true.
This is called the usa democracy and voters rights to be counted are legal in our country.
In each of the polls area’s where they are being counted there are democrats and republicans in the room watching everything being done as well as camera’s in the rooms. This is all very legal.
It would be nice if everyone stays calm and be patient and the trump camp stops feeding their base to cause violence and danger to our country and our officers in blue.
Concerned Resident says
Good riddance Trump. You’re fired!
No plan for covid, accepts no personal responsibility and blames everyone else but himself. He inherited good job numbers and an economy and blew it. Division and rioting all over the county. Trump’s America is a nightmare! BYE!
F the Constitution says
Welcome to ” The United States of Corruption “.
Between your name, and your comment, I can’t figure out what your point is.
The Voice Of Reason says
What a beautiful day and time! This so called patriotic disgrace of a President, a multiple time draft dodger, a creep who brags about grabbing women’s private parts, who supports racist groups and bashes shithole countries with extreme prejudice, a lying conman and his enablers have LOST!!! Lock him up!!! A truly great day for all humanity.
Gary R says
@The Voice Of Reason – Joe Biden was a draft dodger and similar to President Trump’s, both had 5 deferments. Joe Biden is a racist look at his crime bill and why they call him Jim Crow. Joe Biden told a 13 year old she makes him horny. Joe Biden has lied many times and the whole Biden family is corrupt. You have NO voice of reason only your own opinion.
And He Won. SO like We were all told. DEAL WITH IT. Hes gone now you all can rip Biden/Harris all you want . They are in the big House. Cant wait to see what Rudy comes up with next. OR Donnie Jr. or whomever else cant accept defeat.
IMO YOU should DEAL WITH IT. Donnie is exit Stage Right. Move on to the here and now live in Reality its a beautiful day. All the finger pointing and he said she said will change nothing. Not a Politician in DC without skeletons but we just rid ourselves of the best of the worst
Gary R says
@Steve – I have no problem who is president. I was pointing out Joe Biden’s record because people only look at one side of the coin. But, President Trump has lots of accomplishments whereas for Joe Biden I could not find any. Kind of SAD for a person in office 47 years. We will see what the future holds.
Dale Harmon says
The results of this election was a repudiation of Trump, not the Republican party. Republicans gained House seats. The Senate is not dramatically changed. Enough Republican voters split their vote to give Trump the boot. Those Republicans (DeSantis) and Trump who advocate that Republican state legislatures overturn the vote in their states are advocating a coup in favor of Trump. It would be a dangerous path to take. Let us hope that Mr. Biden can drain the Trump sewage out of the Washington swamp.
Steve Robinson says
You are absolutely right, Mr. Harmon. The only issue that really mattered in this election was getting rid of this contemptible, corrupt man. This country could not move forward in any way with a racist would-be autocrat in the White House. I totally agree that this election was in no way a repudiation of the Republican Party. The question is whether it was a repudiation of Trump-ism, and I’m not certain of that. Enough Republicans recognized that, whatever their agenda, nothing could succeed with Trump at the head of the party.
Unfortunately, you both are only half right. As long as the Senate remains under the control of Moscow Mitch nothing will be accomplished legislatively. The Georgia run off elections are critical to anything meaningful coming out of a Biden administration.
The longer it takes to concede it will backfire on the GA Senate race because the people of Ga. Will realize the GOPers will not move on plain and simple so keep stalling .
Concerned Citizen says
This has been one of the most hostile election seasons I can remember. And I will be glad when it is over.
No presidential candidate will ever completly satisfy the American public. Sadly we have resorted to voting for the lesser of two evils. Instead of demanding quality and fairness. As well as ethical behavior we go oh he isn’t as bad as so and so. He gets my vote!! What we should be doing is raising complete hell with these politicians and demanding they do their jobs.
On another note. For those out there advocating violence to keep your candidate in office you are part of the problem. And not a solution. You think you’re all that with your assault rifles. But I will tell you our government won’t stand for it. And I have operated in middle eastern countries where that type of behavior is the norm. And I will tell you first hand it isn’t pretty at all.
Everyone needs to take a chill pill and step back. We need to start looking out for each other instead of running around with all this hate. Because at the end of the day whoever sits in that oval office doesn’t give a damn about about the average person.
Funny thing is, there are still plenty of Ignorant people out there waving flags and honking horns for this future incarcerated Tub of Orange Shit. Maybe you can have a conjugal visit.
The Pandemic is OUT OF CONTROL, your neighbors and countrymen are sick and dying. Yet, not only does Bonespurs not mention it, but he’s out golfing.
You cult members put his face on an American Flag. Do you know how pathetic that is? You’re pledging allegiance to not only a person, but a Traitor.
Decide NOW if you’re for America, or for Trump. It will be interesting to see how much he’s stolen from our country once the investigations evolve.
Gary R says
@JJ – So when Joe Biden was an advocate for outsourcing critical U.S. industry to China he wasn’t a traitor?
Did they find him to be so. Back it up with facts chargers something. Trump is an asshole so we just were handed 4 years of proof9See Election results) and about to dot the I’s and cross the T’s IMO
Brynn Newton says
My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over … Our Constitution works; our great Republic is a government of laws and not of men. Here the people rule. But there is a higher Power, by whatever name we honor him, who ordains not only righteousness but love, not only justice but mercy.
— Gerald Ford, Swearing-in Ceremony speech
John the Baptist says
This is significant on so many levels! More importantly, this win for Biden is a gift for the Flagler County Republicans and especially for Joe Mullins!
Just a few emails from our friends in other countries. . . the whole world is celebrating!
Congratulations, we are very happy that you succeeded in driving out this uncultivated and racist president.
Great to see Irish American Joe make it to the White House after all this time …he’ll need that sharp intelligent wife to keep him right. They’ll need to shackle that buffoon to get him out . Also a good day for African American women.
Great, great, we think about you a lot!
America breathes! The world is also rid of a dangerous character! Let him return to his golf courses …..
We kiss you .
Good evening friends
We think of you on this victory night, you are released and we wish the best for your country
See you soon
We kiss you
Francoise and Christian
FROM THE NETHERLANDS:
Congrats with your new president !
It took some time to know who the winner was…. but we think it is the right candidate :-)
Tbh watching Trumps antics, and his followers has been excruciatingly embarrassing, plus bloody Farage poking his nose in. He stirred up things in UK re Brexit then buggered off!
So glad it’s over but think it might be watch this space. Here’s hoping for some calm and common sense in the once great USA,
Hi Sherry and Menos
The best news of 2020 We just heard that Biden won.
Love from Greece
JW and Emely
Nice! I heard similar posts, too.
Just wondering says
So when do I get the free stuff I was promised?
Are you referring to the wall?
That’s Joe Namath not Joe Biden just sayin
Trump will start a line of orange hair coloring for narcissistic dirty old men,
and a new line of self-flushing toilets–Donald’s face emblazoned on the bowl.
After all, he was always full of crap. Yes–they will be made in China, like the
Make going to the bathroom great again!
Jeff Sica says
Recently there was a new political (?) sign added to the cluster on Palm Coast Parkway at the southern end of Florida Park Drive. It reads: “Trump fans rally and Biden fans riot and loot”, and it’s not the multiple false assertions made that caught my attention (at this point in the 2020 election cycle, Trump and the majority of the GOP have made false assertions the new normal). What stands out to me is the use of the word “fan”, which is derived from “fanatic”. Courtesy of Merriam-Webster: “Definition of fanatic (Entry 2 of 2) : marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion.” Note the “uncritical” adjective!
In all my 59 years, of which for only about 30 of them have I honestly been politically cognizant, politicians never had “fans”…they have constituents. You know, the folks who voted for them, electing them to various governmental positions to act in the best interest of said constituents. They are being paid by us to work for us, not to entertain us! We’re not paying them to entertain us, or score touchdowns for our teams. I’ve never been a fan of any politician. I’ve supported several, even admired a few, but being fanatical (especially the “intense, uncritical devotion” part) about a public servant never entered my mind. For all you Trump “fans” out there, as a reality TV host, he may have been entertaining (I wouldn’t know, as I was never bored enough to watch). There is nothing real about “reality” TV. And he was entertaining as president for a short time, until he became dangerous to our American Experiment. But government and politics is indeed real, with real life consequences. There are 3 things I’m very sure of at this point. 1) Biden will be nowhere near as entertaining as Trump was, 2) nor will he be dangerous to our democracy, and 3) Biden and Harris will indeed be working for the American people, all the American people.
Jason Barton says
Very interesting driving around Bunnell today .. all the houses that had Trump signs and flags on them are bare. Democracy won today, and now it’s time to Build Back Better.
This country is not divided. Trump got all the votes. 1/2 voted for him and 1/2 voted against him!
Wow, no cities burned to the ground or people being killed in the streets by all Trump supporting white supremacists. Maybe it was the Biden voters we seen all summer. Yet all the media said the real threat was the Trump supporters.
The next four years from provda should be interesting or scary.
The Voice Of Reason says
Say hi to Kyle Rittenhouse for me. And the innocents run over by deranged trumpers in pick up trucks. And that friendly attorney couple pulling assault weapons on harmless protesters.
Yea! Peace again, STOP COVID SPREADING/all those deaths (he is pro life?…what?!), no more tax payer trips to go play golf, no more mafia buddies on the WH, no more drama and no more energy drainage every day in the news! (Sigh) The PEOPLE HAVE VOTED….BRAVO!! My reply to when someone states to me bogus stuff about Trump, my reply….”trump who?” Time to move on! Yeaaa!
Every single person who is in touch with any kind of humanity should watch this over and over and really take it in:
Time to come back to being compassionate, kind, generous, HONEST, ethical, reasonable, loving, peaceful. . . that is the AMERICAN WAY! That is what makes us so special!
Celia M Pugliese says
Of course Trump was ousted by the people’s vote because first and most important called our war heroes losers and that alone turned Arizona John McCain’s estate Blue. How could he call those that gave their lives fighting for our freedom that preserves our right to VOTE losers? Our war heroes forever passed to immortality in our USA history ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Piestewa, https://time.com/5444889/utah-mayor-brent-taylor-killed-afghanistan/
Among many more!
Proud American says
You all are going to be very angry and rightfully so. You have been misled, lied to, and deceived for a little no time. Whether it was Russia collusion, Ukraine, election pollS, etc..when the truth comes out you don’t even recognize it.
The election is not final. States are still counting. If you step away from your programming you would realize, that news outlets do not get to decide who is president.
It is very obvious that there has been a planned attack on our country. If you notice they were very slow to call any wins for Trump, keeping his electoral count low. Biden got awarded by the media any count as long as he was in the lead, no matter how low, or %precinct reporting. Even Alaska a mere 3 votes, hasn’t been called for the president it froze at 60%T and 30%B, a always red state. It is also stunning how in all the “battleground states”, where trump took a lead, they mysteriously stopped counting at a certain time, and that all at once came back with Biden’s mail in ballot total, some precincts 100% in his favor. Statistically impossible.
Obama in his hay day grew crowds, Trump 5 rallies in one day with 10’s of thousands of people on short 24 hour notice Biden couldn’t get 50 outside inside anywhere. You mean to tell me that he was able to get more votes than Obama? Then Hillary? Than trump? In the primaries, he couldn’t get even the majority of his own party.
Whether democratic or republican you should agree to have transparency and truth in our election system. If you are confident he won, let’s all pause and make sure it’s done right.
If you fail to see what is goin on around you, I beg you, unplug, do your own research.
In the end everyone will finally see why we love Trump. He is fighting for our voice, against the system. Fighting for truth.
Trump/Covid 2020 says
Hate to burst your alternate reality bubble but Sleepy Joe got almost 52% of the popular vote and 68% of the delegates in the Democratic party primaries. Far surpassing Trump’s 45% of the popular vote and 59% of delegates in 2016 primaries. Research that.
Unless our Constitution has changed the size of rally’s means squat. He had Yuge rally’s in 2016 but still lost the popular vote. I’m sure that was some sort of conspiracy as well huh? The GOP should be asking itself why have we lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 elections? If not for the electoral college W Bush or Trump would never have been in the White House.
Rallies size OH really. LOL Wheres the Gonzo Journalist Hunter S. Thompson when you need him He would have had a field day with you people. He could have made a second Career on your version of the World WOW
Gary R says
When do they impeach Joe Biden?
White Bronco says
I can’t wait until politics are boring again. Maybe these Trump fanatics can find another hobby, one that doesn’t include disrespecting half of the fellow Americans that they live with and are cordial to, in the grocery store line. Time to let go. Sorry, ya had 4 years to get everyone on board. Instead, it was just a disastrous continuation of the same BS. Facts. Make politics boring again!
Stephen Smith says
Trump won something. He is first loser
We are very much starting to look like a totalitarian country like Russia or Venezuela were a dictator refuses to step down and concede when elections outs them. Shameful and then we send our soldiers to die in foreign lands costing us trillions that we need at home, to fight for “other” democracies! Give it up you lost Trump-olini.
Can anyone who reads the comments in this thread remain unconvinced that something is irretrievably broken in America?