Flagler County School Board members for the first time Tuesday and in a pair of meetings publicly addressed the March 3 walkouts and suspensions at Flagler Palm Coast High School and Matanzas High School protesting the Legislature’s controversial “Don’t Say Gay” bill.
If “the kids were great up there,” as Board member Jill Woolbright described the walkout she witnessed at Matanzas, it was a different story on the School Board.
Woolbright flagrantly mischaracterized the superintendent’s pre-walkout briefing to board members and blamed the administration for allegedly keeping her in the dark–about what, she never made clear, though on operational matters it is inappropriate for school board members to meddle. She claimed, without evidence, that there were “huge, huge safety issues at both schools.”
School Board member Janet McDonald openly asked for closed-door meetings to discuss such matters as the walkouts, though that would be illegal, indicated that the walkouts should not have been allowed, and said her pride in the district stopped on March 4, the day of the walkouts.
Both board members made unfounded allegations about security issues–the only unauthorized individual to enter either schools during the walkout was McDonald’s husband–and asked for a review of the policy and procedures controlling student walkouts and the like.
But they drew sharp and immediate push-back from Superintendent Cathy Mittlestadt, who drew a bright line in the sand. Policy is under the board members’ purview. Procedures–how administrators and staff handle anything–are not: that’s the superintendent’s purview.
By law, school board members are barred from interfering with the day-to-day running of schools, with telling any administrator or staff (from teachers to principals to cooks to custodians), or with using their position to effect any form of decision-making at a school-based level. Other than policy-making, they may only channel their wishes through the superintendent, with the consensus of the entire board.
Woolbright and McDonald have been creating their own gray areas, potentially skirting or transgressing what Mittlestadt refers to as proper “lanes.” The workshop discussion that followed, emphasized at the evening meeting later, revealed to what extent two board members are leveraging their positions to insinuate themselves in the day-to-day running of schools or to second-guess administrative decisions that don’t go their way. They are the only two board members who attended the walkouts, one at each school. They did so not in a supportive but a prosecutorial mode, as their reactions showed during Tuesday’s meetings.
“So let’s be careful, board,” Mittlestadt told the two board members, “because to discuss operationally how we handled that, managed the situation, I don’t know that that’s a public conversation. I think what’s more important is, we as a senior leadership team, working with our school-based leaders, are looking at recommendations for developing a standard operating procedure if we have an event like this again in the future, so our leaders know how to manage something and keep it in a good place.” That could lend itself to policy language and the code of conduct, but until then, the board members could not second-guess the administrative workings of the schools, operationally.
“No conversation about whether policy was followed or not?” Woolbright asked.
“I asked for an executive session on that and got nowhere,” McDonald said, using the words for a closed door session. She got nowhere because it would have been illegal: the board may have closed-door sessions only to discuss pending litigation, contract negotiations with their two unions, specific disciplinary cases involving specific students, or to review tactical security procedures that keep students and staff safe–not to review an event like the March walkout or debate whether the administration handled it properly or not. Board Chairman Trevor Tucker reminded his colleagues that they had to keep student privacy in mind: that, too, was why discussing the event’s procedures was not a board purview.
“This is an operational and administrative issue,” Board member Colleen Conklin said. The policy, she said, “has worked for years, through multiple events that are similar to this. But as far as I’m concerned, this is operational and administrative. And we need to stay in our lane.” McDonald, again without evidence, said the policy was “violated in numerous ways.”
“Some people may feel that way and others may not,” Conklin said.
Contrary to McDonald’s and Woolbright’s claims, the record indicates that there were no serious safety issues at either schools. There was one brief incident involving a small group of students who got into a confrontation over a Trump flag. The incident, which involved the alleged choking of a student (a claim disputed by the assailant) was investigated by the Sheriff’s Office and the school administration, it was reported in detail here and elsewhere, it led to at least one brief suspension, but it caused no injuries, and all parties involved declined to press charges against each other because they expressly stated that they did not want to blemish each others’ records: the students, in other words, ultimately handled it as much as the administration did.
Beyond that incident, a thorough verification of the sheriff’s record, as of today, pointed to zero additional incidents or calls for service at either school, while from within the district and the schools, Board Attorney Kristy Gavin said only one other situation had been reported, and it proved unfounded. “It was alleged statements made on a bus, like somebody overhearing something,” Gavin said. “There were people talking about the walkout and people talking about other things, so whatever got overheard, they blended the two issues together, kind of like that telephone thing.” Beyond that, the attorney said, “I don’t believe there’s anything outstanding,” other than the administration going through its own debriefing and analyzing what concerns there may have been, what can be done better, and so on.
For board members to claim that there were “huge” safety issues at either walkout, in other words, is sheer fabrication–but alarming fabrication, because the two board members are using that very claim as the basis for a policy rewrite–and as a basis for Woolbright’s subsequent attack on the administration and the superintendent in particular. That took place during Woolbright’s closing comments at the evening meeting on Tuesday, when she may have been smarting from the superintendent pushing back against her at the afternoon workshop–twice, and in no uncertain terms, when Woolbright claimed there’d been safety issues.
“So again board, I just caution us to think about operationally, and I’m the superintendent and I worked with my staff and the leaders to stay within the lanes of your school board policies and our Code of Conduct,” Mittelstadt said. “We had two events that occurred. We manage that. From that, if I’m hearing that you want language changed in the school board policy, I lean to the direction of the attorney to make sure that as we make a recommendation, it is what you choose to move forward. But to have a public conversation about what we perceive to be a violation of something: we’ve already managed that. We’ve already managed that.”
“So how do we manage it for the public?” Woolbright pressed.
“We can’t address code of conduct, as board chair said, regarding FERPA manners,” Mittlestadt said, referring to the The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act. “That is not to be discussed in a public forum.” If students don’t feel safe, they can address that at the school.
Conklin and Massaro had no interest in reviewing the policy in question. Woolbright and McDonald did. Tucker joined them, only to the extent that he did not want to oppose any policy review as a matter of principle, but he insisted: “I’m okay reviewing policy 522. It is just the policy. We’re not going to get into that event that day at all,” Tucker said.
“Every time we have a new circumstance, we always try to figure out how we’re going to be better from it,” Mittelstadt had said as a preface to the discussion. “So from this event, it could be an opportunity that we bring forward at a workshop discussion opportunity regarding the language of 522 that addresses a walkout or protest on behalf of students. And then does that even align with maybe making some tweaks to our code of conduct?” The administration is exploring those issues and may bring some new language to a workshop addressing either the policy or the student code of conduct.”
A few hours later, at the evening meeting, the same board members again went on the attack, this time ridiculing the students who took part in the walkouts as McDonald made her wishes explicit: she’d wanted the walkout banned.
“I believe as a district we failed our students on the third [of March] and the second and the first in order to redirect them to a more purposeful, productive and educational handling of the situation,” McDonald said. She then claimed, with no evidence, that students “had no idea what the legislation was about” and called them “immature adolescents thinking that they had made a statement.” (Massaro conceded that some students may not have known what they were protesting about, but “at least half did.”)
“Their statement was not received well by the community. And I think as educators and board members, we failed our students,” McDonald continued. “There were requests from the community, from board members to not allow those events to happen.” There may have been, but McDonald appeared not to understand that neither board members nor the “community” had the authority to decide whether students had the right to protest or not. “I was very proud of Flagler schools until the third of March and it breaks my heart,” she said.
Woolbright was equally accusatory, claiming she had sought information about the walkout and was denied it until the morning of the event. “At four o’clock in the morning we all got–the board finally got an email that there was going to be a walkout, that’s pretty much all it said,” she said.
Woolbright was being dishonest. The email she was referring to came from the superintendent. It transcribed the segment of the policy addressing walkouts, which are subject to serious disciplinary action, but also noted that “in the past our school administrators have successfully worked with students who have held walkouts to take part in a peaceful protest, while not interfering with the learning environment of students who do not wish to participate. That is the same in this case.” One such walkout was organized on Feb. 21, 2018, a week after the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas high school massacre, when some 200 students at FPC and Matanzas walked out for 17 minutes, in commemoration of the 17 lost lives at the Parkland school and to protest the absence of better safety and gun control measures. At Matanzas, the students walked the track. At FPC, they gathered in the gym, where school officials actually encouraged the students to write legislators for more safety in schools.
No school board member protested the walkout. None would have dared. But the precedent was set.
Mittlestadt’s email went on to explain to board members, over four paragraphs, that district and school-based administrators worked with both Matanzas and FPC “to establish a plan of action to allow for the student protest, while not disrupting other students who prefer to not take part,” and to ensure the safety of those who would take part. She described the necessity of an “open line of communication” between student leaders and administrators and teachers, and the importance not to marginalize students’ concerns “or upending the learning environment for other students.” And she described the procedure to be followed–and the consequences if procedures were not followed.
What it did not say–what Woolbright and McDonald appeared to be complaining that it did not say–was that the walkout would be prevented.
Massaro and Conklin defended the walkout and the way they were handled by the administration. “Needless to say, they don’t shed their rights at the schoolhouse door,” Massaro said, echoing the celebrated words of Justice Abe Fortas in a 1969 decision upholding the right of a 13-year-old girl to protest the Vietnam War at school (three students wore a black armband to school. They were suspended.) “Students have rights. They have rights.” Massaro reminded her colleagues of their own lectures about students’ rights not to wear masks. “How long did we hear that?” she said. “High school students, they’ve demonstrated and protested as long as I can remember. This is not the first time this happened in Flagler. It is not. It was handled by our professionals. And that’s what they should do.” Students, she said, “are always going to do what they’re going to do. We just have to figure out how to work best with them,” even if at times a protest could be diverted into other means of expression.
Conklin, after calling out her colleagues for abusing their authority (“Do I think some people crossed the line into operations, and that’s not their responsibility or their role”) alone spoke in defense of Jack Petocz, the student leader who organized the walkout. “We have a student that, yes, has become an advocate. And I don’t think he should be disrespected for that. He’s a young man. He is a student. He is learning and he is passionate about his voice because he feels he was treated wrongly. Let’s stop trying to say that it doesn’t matter because it matters to some students.”
Concerned Citizen says
If McDonalds husband was on school property unauthorized that should be addressed ASAP.
He should be cited for Trespass. Because if it were you or I that’s exactly what would happen. What was his purpose for being there?
Everytime McDonald and Woolbright end up in the papers it’s never in a flattering light. And I’m not terribly surprised they want to circumvent the law. And have secret meetings.
Rember this next election cycle. I intend to.
Mark says
You’re exactly right, McDonalds husband should be held for Trespassing and if the District doesn’t want to press charges then at least it sends a message. VOTE!
FlaglerLive says
He was asked to leave and did leave the premises.
PAUL says
Ironic, isn’t it, how opponents choose to use a made-up label “Don’t Say Gay”, to further their agenda because they know that criticizing a “Parental Rights Bill” will garner little, if any, support. We shouldn’t be surprised, since this is right in line with their usual modus operandi… misdirect, obfuscate, and employ ridicule, insults, & self-assumed victimization to generate sympathy for their B.S.
Bailey’s Mom says
Janet and Jill have got to go! Vote them out this year!
We need qualified candidates who put our students, staff, and administrators first…it’s 2022 and outdated thinking will not elevate our students!
bob says
Joke and Joker will not get my vote
Enough says
Isn’t it time that the archaic views of Woolbright and McDonald went ‘bye-bye”. I am so tired of hearing these two empty headed women push their misguided ideals on others. They don’t even know their own laws as far as when to interfere and when not to. They need to go away. Maybe they should be banned instead of books! Flagler County really needs some intelligent life form on this Board. We have to make it happen when it comes time to vote!
Robert Clint says
I agree they are just a couple of zombies leading the students to the grave. Noone should take them seriously.
Fredrick says
“Woolbright flagrantly mischaracterized the superintendent’s pre-walkout briefing to board members”… If this is true then then calling this a “Don’t say Gay” bill is also a mischaracterization of what is in the bill.
FlaglerLive says
“Don’t Say Gay” is an understated shorthand for a prohibition that extends much further than those three words, with legal implications that are more costly than the words convey. In that sense, yes, it remains a mischaracterization for understating the issue.
Charlie says
This Don’t Say Gay bill is a disgrace. Who will DeSantis be discriminating against next? He is out of control want to be dictator Trumpee If he thinks he is scoring points he is not he has lost a lot of voters by his latest action against people of color and gay people.
Kathy Benton says
Your leftist talking points are so far from the truth. Young children, kindergarteners through third graders, do not need to be indoctrinated about sex at their age, and discussing perverse sexual choices with them at school, when they are a captive audience, is so reprehensible. I’m thankful for our governor, who courageously stands up for our state’s children, and tries to ensure a normal, healthy, innocent childhood for them.
Michael Cocchiola says
Janet McDonald and Jill Woolbright are driven by radical beliefs. They would rather fight their culture war than allow our students to exercise their rights as citizens.
We must get these culture warriors off the school board before they turn students into automatons unable to compete for good jobs.
We have two responsible, moderate, and knowledgeable candidates for these two school board seats – Sally Hunt (Woolbright’s seat) and Courtney VandeBunte (McDonald’s seat). They will bring sanity, thoughtfulness, and a solid commitment to the education of students. Let’s give Cheryl Massaro and Colleen Conklin the help they need to keep the school board moving bravely forward into the 21st Century.
Deborah Coffey says
Good job, Cathy. We don’t need or want Jill Woolbright’s “pride” in our school system. She’s got pride mixed up with bigotry. McDonald doesn’t know what’s legal and what isn’t. We’re going to vote them BOTH out! And, we can’t wait.
Skibum says
I have a lot of respect for the students who stood up and took action to protest an unjust, biased law being passed in the legislature that would personally and negatively affect their fellow school students. They were within their 1st amendment rights, and showed much more courage and maturity that some of the “adults” on the school board who tried to silence and shame them. Janet McDonald and Jill Woolbright have shown time and again how controlling they are, how anti-student they are, and how unhinged they are, and they continue to disgrace their elected school board positions with Nazi like behavior. I’m surprised they haven’t publicly called for bonfires to burn all of the many school library books they find so personally detestable. I’m quite sure the next step, if not stopped in their tracks by other board members with more brain cells between their ears, would be to call for public floggings for any school students who don’t cower in front of the two idiots who thing they are somehow appointed by God almighty to rule with unquestioning obeyance to their silly, yet dangerous demagoguery. We can only hope both will be thrown out on their ears come the next school board election!
Knows Jack says
Schoolboard Members, School Administration,
Please tell us your plan to make all schools A rated. All other conversations should be secondary.
The dude says
Yep.
Book burning and blatant discrimination against the gays should be considered stretch goals, to be addressed only after the basic needs and functions of the schools are satisfactorily met.
Sweetness says
School Board members McDonald and Halfbright once again show that their ignorance abounds. I am so tired of their misguided thought process as well as their babbling Bull Shit and misinformation they need to be removed this coming election in November. I would also add that they have zero understanding of basic leadership principles. I don’t even see any glimmer of leadership traits. They are on a power trip. As an attorney, I am waiting for them to slip us with an egregious act so that I can make their lives a living hell!
David Larue says
Good Job Cathy👍
Eileen says
” HUGE HUGE SAFETY ISSUES ” at that school board meeting when the HATE GROUPS supporting Jill Woolbright’s book ban showed up!
PAUL J ARCUSA says
Being an old-fashioned man who has witnessed a every type of political shenanigans in my lifetime, from both sides of the aisle, I can state with confidence that it matters not one whit whether you choose to vilify Mr. Biden or Mr. Trump, or any other government personage. It’s all a dog & pony show meant to obfuscate the true intentions of those promoting the divisiveness.
“Students have rights”… true enough, to a point. But when we permit such “rights” to interfere with learning the knowledge & skills they will need to live their lives, I believe they are being led astray. High school is not the venue to proclaim how “socially aware” one is… Will we permit elementary school children to stage “walkouts” next?? Our young ones are being used as pawns by unscrupulous adults and it is plain wrong. There will be time enough as they go through life, after their school days, to make their marks and partake in their chosen political endeavors. Stop robbing them of their youth.
A. Wolf says
Allowing students to protest is not “robbing them of their youth”. It’s exactly the opposite.
PAUL says
If you take the time to recognize the context of my comment, it should be clear that the entities being referred to as robbing the kids of their youth was not the “permission” to protest, but the adults using young, impressionable students to further their own agendas. Again, I would ask… at what age or level of educational instruction will the next “socially aware” demonstrations/walkouts be promoted by such people? Shall we encourage kindergartners to “march in solidarity” supporting political ideology of which they have no understanding?
Apparently, nowadays all one needs to do, to “validate” ones position on just about anything, is invoke the “personal rights” buzzwords and PRESTO!!, anyone who dares dispute said platform is labeled as racist, homophobic, or that old standby, a (gasp!!) Trumpaholic, depending on which issue is being discussed. It is shameful and sad that the premise of Equal Rights under the Law can be abrogated by whichever group can come up with the most vehement, vile, and insulting slurs towards their opposition. The days of civil discussion and respectful exchange of ideas have fallen by the wayside.
Annie says
What about calling the kids to the assembly room and reading the entire 7 pages to them and with them, (which none of you apparently have read either) Think for yourselves you sound like a bunch of ignorant woke parrots!