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Judge Rules No Discrimination In Bakers’ Refusal to Call Gays “Abomination” on a Cake

| February 10, 2017

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Icing on the hate. (Dan DeLuca)

A mother-and-daughter bakery did not discriminate against a potential customer when the owners refused to make a cake with an anti-gay slogan, an administrative law judge decided this week.


Administrative Law Judge J. Bruce Culpepper’s recommended order in favor of Cut the Cake comes nearly two years after the Central Florida bakery was targeted by Arizona evangelist Joshua Feuerstein for refusing to make a cake with an anti-gay marriage message.

In the administrative challenge, potential customer Robert Mannarino accused Cut the Cake — co-owned by Sharon Haller and her daughter, Cyndol Knarr — of religious discrimination when the women refused to make a cake with the words “Homosexuality is an abomination unto the Lord.”

Mannarino turned to the administrative court after the Florida Commission on Human Relations last summer told the Pinellas Park resident the commission did not have jurisdiction to consider his complaint because the Longwood bakery — which has since moved to Orlando — was not a place of “public accommodation,” which means anti-discrimination policies would not apply.

Haller told the judge that her daughter believed Mannarino’s was among the thousands of “harassing, sometimes threatening” calls they received in 2015 shortly after Feuerstein posted a video of his conversation with her on YouTube and urged others to contact the bakery.

Believing Mannarino’s request for a cake to be a prank, Knarr sarcastically quoted a price of $150 per letter, bringing the cost of the confection to nearly $6,000. She hung up when Mannarino told her he was recording the call.

During the hearing, Mannarino maintained that he was a devout Christian and “reads the Bible often,” according to the ruling issued Thursday. But, the judge noted, Mannarino was “unable to provide another biblical verse from memory” when pressed at the final hearing in October.

The bakery owners testified that they are Christians and frequently make cakes with religious themes and biblical inscriptions but they ignored Mannarino’s request because of the “mean” and “ugly” message he wanted on the cake.

The administrative law judge agreed with the commission that the bakery is not a place of “public accommodation” because, unlike restaurants or cafeterias, Cut the Cake is not a facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption onsite.

But Culpepper went much further in his 28-page recommended order, rejecting Mannarino’s allegation that the bakery owners had discriminated against him.

Mannarino “presented no direct or statistical evidence of religious discrimination,” Culpepper wrote.

“Petitioner did not offer evidence or elicit testimony that Cut the Cake refused to provide him a baked good specifically because he was a Christian. (In fact, all Cut the Cake did was quote a price for the cake, then hang up the phone without completing his order),” he wrote.

Culpepper noted that Mannarino’s claim that he is a Christian “has several weaknesses” because he does not regularly attend church or belong to a specific denomination. And Mannarino “displayed questionable knowledge about the Bible,” including the quote at the heart of the dispute, the judge found.

Mannarino “emphatically declared” that the quote was “a direct quote” from the Bible, “however, the undersigned finds that it is not,” Culpepper wrote.

Culpepper’s recommended order included several footnotes addressing the teachings of Jesus and the Bible, including a short inventory of verses dealing with homosexuality.

Culpepper recommended that the Commission on Human Relations issue a final order finding that Cut the Cake is not a place of “public accommodation,” or, alternatively, find that the bakery did not discriminate against Mannarino.

In a telephone interview Friday, Knarr told The News Service of Florida it was “ridiculous that we got singled out and all that happened over something we thought wasn’t even a real phone call,” referring to the call by Feuerstein.

“I’m just ready for everything to be over with, honestly,” she said. “We just want everything to go back to normal.”

She said the attention has had a negative impact on her business, which raised around $14,000 on the gofundme.com social media site after being targeted by Feuerstein.

In the April 2015 telephone call, Feuerstein told the bakery he needed a cake “and I need it to say ‘we do not support gay marriage.’ ” Haller first asked Feuerstein if it was a prank, then said that was something the bakery wouldn’t do.

Feuerstein — who later that year created a furor over the plain red cups used by Starbucks during the holiday season — then posted the video on his Facebook page, asking supporters to contact the bakery.

The calls were so venomous that Haller and Knarr feared their lives were in danger.

“It’s hurt our business not only because of what they’ve done but because of people writing false reviews on Google and Yelp,” Knarr said.

The bakery owners’ objections to Mannarino’s phrase had nothing to do with same-sex marriage, Knarr said.

“Why would people want something so hateful on a cake in the first place? If someone asked us to write something else that was hateful on a cake, we wouldn’t,” she said.

–Dara Kam, News Service of Florida

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14 Responses for “Judge Rules No Discrimination In Bakers’ Refusal to Call Gays “Abomination” on a Cake”

  1. Sw says:

    Nothing else to do than this. Leave people alone.

  2. Carol Fisher says:

    I recently read about a photographer who was contacted about doing a wedding shoot. The bride looked over the photographer’s website, and became concerned that she did “those kinds” of weddings. Wanted the photographer to assure her that she did not. Photographer told her that she was actually already booked that day. Hopefully she won’t be sued for opting not to work for a bigot, racist, homophobe.

  3. woodchuck says:

    Must have been a slow day on earth.

  4. Layla says:

    Sw, I am with you.

  5. YankeeExPat says:

    It’s embarrassing how some of my Christian brethren can find a way to infuse Hate into one of life’s simple pleasures ………. Eating Friggin Cake!

    Then again being a Catholic in the South, I have been told I’m not a really a Christian, so go figure.

  6. Katie Semore says:

    Many people think it is their job to do God’s job. If they would just take care of their own responsibilities and let God take care of His, it would be a much better world. If God made everything and He makes no mistakes, why is it so hard to believe that He may have made people different?

  7. Katie Semore says:

    What do you, that is the collective you, think is the difference between two same-sex people have a sexual relationship and a man-woman having a sexual relationship without the benefit of a marriage certificate? According to most religions, both are sins and yet those who profess to be religious accept one as relatively okay and the other as an abomination. How do you, again the collective you, come to this conclusion?

  8. Sherry says:

    Thanks YankeeExPat. . . right on!

  9. Igato Takalika says:

    Religion is an abomination to the Lord.

  10. The Geode says:

    What the hell is wrong with people?

  11. TeddyBallGame says:

    On homosexuality:

    I wholeheartedly accept the concept of tolerance.

    But that was not good enough and the concept of tolerance soon became mandatory acceptance.

    But then acceptance was not good enough and outright approval became mandatory .

    But now celebration of homosexuality is mandatory . And any other opinion to the contrary, and the people that hold them, are violently condemned

    THERE IS NOTHING SO ILL-LIBERAL AS A LIBERAL. (WF Buckley)

  12. Faye Goebel says:

    I take objection to the fact that this person says he is a Christian!
    Follow the Ten Commandments and keep your mouth shut – lest you be judged!

  13. Dutch says:

    But no more than Gays already have though, right….

  14. Jose Caniusi says:

    Faye,since you embrace the Ten Commandments as the words Of God given to Moses TWO THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE THE BIRTH OF CHRIST please explain how Jesus’s followers were able to circumvent the first commandment ‘Put no Gods before me” and install him as the Lord God. The second commandment forbids graven images so explain the cross. I have no objection to the other commandments and I do try to live by them. I respect your beliefs,but do as you say and follow your commandments and keep your dogma where it belongs,in church.

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