By Geoff Beattie
When it comes to lying in politics, Donald Trump is in a class of his own. According to the Washington Post, he made 30,573 false or misleading claims in his four years as president, increasing year-on-year from six per day in his first year to 39 per day in his fourth.
Although other presidents have lied to the public, none have lied like this. Some of Trump’s lies are trivial, and many are self-aggrandising (“Nobody builds better walls than me”). Then there are his more egregious lies, like the one about the 2020 presidential election being “stolen” – demonstrably and dangerously contrary to the facts, with serious consequences for the nation and public trust.
And these lies can cut through. Research by political scientists Kevin Arceneaux and Roy Truex found that this “big lie” about the stolen election was very “sticky”. Around 50% of Republican voters believed it, regardless of any emerging contrary evidence. The researchers also found that belief in this lie boosted Republican supporters’ self-esteem – as they weren’t “losers” after all.
Politicians who lie can gain a strategic advantage. If you can successfully embellish the truth or construct a new reality, this often tends to be more interesting and engaging than the complicated truth. The truth may be a bit dull and uninspiring; the lie can be whatever you want it to be. You know what your audience wants to hear.
Politicians know that lying is part of our everyday lives. Research in psychology using lie diaries tells us that people lie on average twice a day. Many are harmless “white” lies told for the benefit of others, but some are not so harmless and told for the benefit of the liar themselves.
Some people get significant pleasure from telling such self-centred lies. Psychologists call this “duping delight”. It confuses the recipient of the lie, who expects to detect signs of guilt or anxiety. Instead, all they see is a faint smile of satisfaction. The liar gets away with it – that smile could mean anything.
Who likes lying?
Certain types of personality are drawn to telling these sorts of lies, including those with little empathy, such as narcissists and psychopaths. They don’t care about the consequences for the recipient; it’s all about them.
People typically start lying early in life – between two and three years of age. Charles Darwin observed this in his own son.
And the ability to lie improves as our cognitive abilities develop. Like any skill, we get better at it with practice. While many adults still feel guilt when they don’t tell the truth, some politicians don’t appear to feel any guilt, shame or sadness at telling a lie.
Telling a big lie
Politics was once thought of as an art. It was political philosopher Nicolo Machiavelli who, in 1532, wrote: “Those princes who have done great things … have known how to circumvent the intellect of men by craft.” Part of that craft was lying. Machiavelli argued that rulers should do whatever it takes to retain power, and this could include “being a great dissembler”.
Politicians can lie by omission and by exaggeration – but sometimes, like Trump, they tell outright “big lies”. This term was introduced by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, and the concept of the big lie was used by the Nazis to justify persecution of the Jews.
A big lie is often defined as “a deliberate gross distortion of the truth used especially as a propaganda tactic”. These have, it is argued, the power to disrupt society.
Political historian Timothy Snyder accused Trump of using the big lie technique in his denial of the 2020 election result.
To work, according to Hitler, big lies must also be able “to awaken the imagination of the public through an appeal to their feelings”. They are not aimed at our rational selves, but our unconscious and emotional selves.
Trump saying that immigrants are eating the dogs and cats in Springfield, Ohio, is not appealing to our rational system. It’s providing us with a vivid image, and trying to affect our emotional and unconscious system.
As the sociobiologist Robert Trivers has pointed out, lying can give you a clear evolutionary advantage. Status, wealth and achievements are important in that great evolutionary battle, the survival of the genes – that’s why people (including Trump) lie about them. But Trivers says self-deceit can also be evolutionarily advantageous, because if you can convince yourself then it makes you more convincing to others, and therefore more effective.
Perhaps Trump managed to convince himself that they really were eating the dogs and cats in Springfield. Or perhaps he thought to himself: “Plant the emotional image, that’s all you need for the faithful.”
Attractive fictions might well engage us and sweep us along but, as Shakespeare suggested in the Merchant of Venice, many people hope the “truth will out” eventually. The last few months of the US election campaign suggest this may not always be true.
Geoff Beattie is Professor of Psychology at Edge Hill University.
The Conversation arose out of deep-seated concerns for the fading quality of our public discourse and recognition of the vital role that academic experts could play in the public arena. Information has always been essential to democracy. It’s a societal good, like clean water. But many now find it difficult to put their trust in the media and experts who have spent years researching a topic. Instead, they listen to those who have the loudest voices. Those uninformed views are amplified by social media networks that reward those who spark outrage instead of insight or thoughtful discussion. The Conversation seeks to be part of the solution to this problem, to raise up the voices of true experts and to make their knowledge available to everyone. The Conversation publishes nightly at 9 p.m. on FlaglerLive.
nbr says
his winning strategy has been and continues to be tell the same lie often enough some people will start to believe it. I am NOT ones of those peoplev@gamil
Hank says
Yep… the right believes one thing and the left believes another because they heard the lies over and over again…. Russian collusion, lap top is fake, Trump said inject yourself with bleach, he said Nazi’s are fine people, he is going to send the military out to arrest opposition after the election… the list goes on and on… and the left believes it….
Joe D says
There is a SIGNIFICANT difference to what Trump is saying and what Democrats are saying….TRUMP is on tape and video SAYING he will do all those things you list!
So now you are telling me he’s LYING about those things he’s said he’s going to do if elected?
You kind of can’t have it both ways. I personally BELIEVE (given the chance), he will try to do everything he says he’s going to do to his opposition once back in office! That’s the frightening part….and I’m not just referring to the frightening part, because today happens to be Halloween 👻
Jim says
Hank, Trump did suggest ingesting bleach to avoid Covid (on national TV). He did say he’s going after his opposition after the election (and he’s said much, much worse). I really don’t care about Hunter’s laptop (last time I checked, Hunter is not elected to any office but the Republicans went after him – how would it have played if the Democrats put Ivanka, Don Jr. and Eric up on charges?) As far as Russian collusion, the jury is still out on that so I’ll give you that one – if there are no facts to support the claim, I’m willing to concede! After Charlottesville, where, if I remember correctly, the Nazi’s marched with catchy slogans like “Jews will not replace us!” and “blood and soil”, Trump said there were good people on both sides. So who are the good people on the Nazi side??
We can both agree that the list goes “on and on”. Trump has been a busy guy. Election stolen, Haitians eating dogs and cats, Democrats are the “enemy from within”, non-citizens are voting by the thousands in this election, the Democrats are cheating to steal this election, “They’re[Democrats] Marxists and communists and fascists, and they’re sick”. I’ll stop there because I know you lost interest halfway through the first sentence.
So say what you want about the “left”, those comments I just made are backed up by factual data. How about you counter my argument with facts you have about the bleach, etc.? I’d love to read it!
Thank God you fine folks on the right have the ability to ignore what Trump says and continue to think he’s the Chosen One. If he is that, I think the Devil has a hand in it!
Shark says
There was russian collusion – during the pandemic diaper don sent covid supplies to his buddy putin and had him rig his election !!!
Toto says
The left believes it because he’s a lying lunatic! He has the support of the people behind Project 2025 who will allow and encourage it. If this lying maniac wins, this country is in for a rude awakening.
BillC says
@Hank April 23 2020 Trump Covid press conference: Trump: “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that.”
August 15 2017 Charlottesville, Va. press conference: Trump: “Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.
On Oct. 9, 2024 Trump told supporters in Scranton, Pennsylvania, that Vice President Kamala Harris is surrounded by “very smart, very vicious people” who are “the enemy from within.”
On Oct. 13, he told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo that U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., is “the enemy from within” and, when asked about the possibility of Election Day chaos, warned of “very bad people,” “radical left lunatics” who should be handled if “necessary” by the National Guard or the military.
The dude says
Like the wanna be mob boss that he is… Diaper Don speaks in a coded way to his supporters. They fully understand what he’s actually saying, and so do we.
Ray W, says
Hello Hank.
I think you might find this fascinating.
The libertarian Cato Institute, not known as a liberal bastion of thought, used the Freedom of Information Act to obtain documents regarding years of immigration releases from ICE custody.
According to David Bier, director of immigration studies at the Institute who spoke with a Newsweek reporter:
“One of [former President Trump’s] very first actions in office, the very first week that he was in office, he rescinded requirements for Immigration and Customs Enforcement to focus on convicted criminals.
“First felons and then other people who committed serious misdemeanors, he revoked those requirements that were put in place by the Obama administration. So it was no longer a requirement for ICE to detain an arrest criminals (sic) over people who are just in the country illegally, who didn’t have any criminal convictions.”
According to a Newsweek review of the Cato Institute report, between October 2017 and October 2020, 92,920 noncitizens with criminal records were released from ICE custody, including over 8,000 violent criminals and 300 murderers.
Between 2021 and June 2024, 56,280 noncitizens with criminal records were released from ICE custody.
Make of this what you will.
Me? I looked up the Cato Institute report.
“Within a few months [of rescinding on January 24, 2017, the Obama-era orders that prioritized the detention and removal of serious public safety threats], his administration was secretly separating families, using prosecutorial resources to jail migrant parents and focusing resources on visa overstays, not serious criminals.”
“While Trump poured resources into detaining asylum seekers, he also released nearly 58,184 noncitizens with criminal records, including 8,260 violent criminals and 306 murderers;
“ICE ended up (re)arresting nearly 11,000 noncitizens who entered under Trump and were convicted of non-immigration crimes, including rape and murder; and
“Trump’s policies incentivized migrant criminals to enter, triggering a threefold increase in the number of convicted criminals attempting to cross the border illegally.”
“Trump’s actions not only led to a threefold increase in criminal crossings from his first month to his last month in office, but they also reversed a decade of near-continuous progress in deterring criminals from attempting to enter the United States illegally.”
Here is part of the first paragraph of the report’s lengthy conclusion:
“Donald Trump is not responsible for crimes committed by immigrants any more that President Biden is. Only the criminal is responsible for his actions and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, Trump is mistaken in claiming that his policies were good for public safety. Immigration enforcement should prioritize serious threats to Americans, rather than indiscriminate mass deportation. …”
The Trump distortions about the Biden administration’s release of noncitizen criminals are doubly heinous, as Trump signed a number of executive orders that made us all less safe. Some of us were raped and murdered by noncitizen criminals his new policies released from custody. All so he could focus on arresting asylum seekers in order to separate children from their parents.
Now, truth is good says
so, when he talks about the criminals coming into America; and those from insane asylums, he knows first hand. GTK
Whiplash says
Beattie is a professor at Edge Hill University which is in England! Why would the owner of Flagler Live publish any hit piece from foreigners without revealing where the University is located or the fact that the author is a professor in a foreign country!
If you MR publisher really want to have us put trust in the news and opinion media you need to start in your own shop!
FlaglerLive says
We were not aware that a professor in England somehow has less qualifications to write an opinion than a professor in Gainesville or Iowa: The Conversation honors academe without borders, as does FlaglerLive.
Jim says
I must humbly point out to you that England is a foreign country! Anything they might have to say about us fine ‘Mericans is something to be avoided at all costs. Do you not realize that, to be a true ‘Merican, you must ignore any and all information that comes from outside the good ol’ USA! Heck, you’re supposed to ignore any information from inside this country that doesn’t goose-step to the MAGA movement.
JW says
This comment demonstrates how ignorant (and arrogant) Americans can be. Please don’t forget that we do not educate much at all during K-12. Any country in Europe does better.
And we better learn from our mistakes rather that repeating them in the form of lies.
And, yes, America is a feel-good society or maybe not (listening to Trump)
Hank says
@Whiplash – you will see NOTHING but the lies that Trump has told and NOTHING about the lies from the other side. The editor here claims “there is no comparison between Trumps lies and Dem lies”. He even promotes the lies of the left with his comments. You will only see one side here. Unless it is local news it will be nothing but biased hand picked reporting of opinion. And even with local it can be questionable sometimes…
Jim says
Please supply some of the heinous lies the Democrats have told and let’s compare them to any lies we can find that the Republicans have told! Please!
Sherry says
@hank. . . post “credible facts” for your outrageous claims. . . OR, we will all know that you are capable of nothing but BS!!!!
Wallingford says
Donald Trump learned from the best, Frederick Christ Trump, his father. Low self esteem dictates embellishing everything; even when the true facts are known. For example, the Donald says he is in the best of health whereas Joe Rogan announced that Trump wore adult diapers during the podcast.
Marlee says
He tells lies because……..
His supporters believe them!
Charles says
He thinks that makes him look smart and strong, not realizing everytime he lies smart people fact check him and prove once again he told another lie.
He is a racist just like his Father was and it is all Donald knows. He is a very bitter hateful person. And for all that our country has given him, he hates our country and says it every day.
All he cares is fools to vote for him so he can stay out of jail and if he wins, he won’t give too craps about anyone as usual but himself.
Laurel says
This article makes a great deal of sense, and explains a lot to me. Someone who is based more in logic, and facts, becomes baffled how people can believe these lies and ignore the facts in front of their faces.
Joe D says
There was another book written during Hitler’s rise to power. It was written by one of his close advisers.
It essentially said the German “masses” (us) were too stupid and uninformed (read “uneducated”) and in need of direction and a scapegoat (someone to blame) for all their troubles (financial and political “punishments” delivered out on Germany when they were defeated in the FIRST world war).
The book goes further on to say: don’t make it a SMALL lie, make it a BIG lie…something that those hearing it will think it’s TOO BIG NOT to be true! Then keep repeating it over and over (despite people challenging it as untrue) until the “uneducated masses” have heard it so often, they believe it HAS to be TRUE!
Hitler needed a scapegoat (well educated, successful Jewish professionals and business leaders) to focus the masses blame on. And they fell for it “hook line and sinker.” Hitler appealed to the basic emotions of the German people’s suffering.
Sound familiar? Just change “Jews” for “Migrants” and we’ve jumped to 2024!!! Someone to BLAME for all the US struggles!!!
When I heard those words, I was STUNNED…it’s EXACTLY what the Trump campaign is doing now… and 1/2 the country is falling for it…frightening!
nbr says
Joe, well spoken, just to add a little, from another comment, YES the LEFT believes the lies and what they hear from DJT own mouth, that is why the Left will not vote for him
Jim says
100% agree. I’ve said before that all of us should review the history of Germany and Europe that led to WWII. We’re heading down that path. I’ve heard time after time – “history repeats itself” which is one reason why we should familiarize ourselves with it. Most people don’t touch a hot stove a second time. We’re reaching for it right now…
and says
Then everyone should look at anthropologists warnings to our president just before WWII and how their analysis of Hitler aligns with what Trump is doing/saying. Margaret Mead nailed it!
Mothersworry says
Because that is who he is and has been all his life. He is the consummate BS’er. What I find real troubling is that he is worshiped and believed. I never thought Americans could support a pos like this. Truly sad.
deport republicans says
facts and truth are irrelevant to republicans. Lies sound better and they support hate. Republicans are the misinformation campaigns and everything they say should be fact checked as its most likely total garbage. for example see any republican speaking.
Laurel says
There is the God Bless the U.S.A. Bible that Trump is selling, that is printed in China, and endorsed by the God Bless the U.S.A. singing Lee Greenwood (who is also profiting) who also sings God Bless Canada “where I know I can be free.” It’s just business, right?
So y’all have a few more days to let Trump know it’s not just business to you.
Dennis C Rathsam says
Don’t ya love the garbage truck!!!! TRUMP LANDSLIDE!
Tired of it says
Because the former leader of the free world riding around in a garbage truck is the image we want to show the world? Or perhaps the image of the grifter selling bibles made in china, gold sneakers, cheap watches and trading cards is a better one? He has disgraced the highest office in the land with his lying, cheating and despicable behavior.
Tired of it says
“More than half of the living US recipients of the Nobel Prize for economics signed a letter that called Vice President Kamala Harris’ economic agenda “vastly superior” to the plans laid out by former President Donald
Twenty-three Nobel Prize-winning economists signed onto the letter, including two of the three most recent recipients.
“While each of us has different views on the particulars of various economic policies, we believe that, overall, Harris’ economic agenda will improve our nation’s health, investment, sustainability, resilience, employment opportunities, and fairness and be vastly superior to the counterproductive economic agenda of Donald Trump,” the economists write in the letter.
demand better says
you mean the garbage truck he couldn’t even open the door to haha? More staged fraud like the McDonalds day and anything he does.
Kennan says
No policy. No platform. No vision. No loyalty to anything other than money. Yes, he lies because he thinks so little of his face. He knows they don’t care enough to follow up on anything. They won’t vote their conscience. Ask yourself why you vote? Be honest. When you vote is it because you like him or because you hate the other party or candidate so much that the lack of policy and rhetoric on your side matters not he lies because he thinks so little of you that the hate and fear and misinformation he sees will stick. he knows it.
Democrats may be too politically correct, but I would rather be annoyed by that then live in fear of literally losing human rights. Vote your conscience. Just to show you I’m not.” Talking out of my ass”. I’m not voting in this cycle. I’m getting a lot of pushback and criticism from fellow Democrats, but I don’t care. When it comes to Gaza….. I know too much, and my conscience won’t allow me to vote for someone who is supporting a country that is murdering every Arab civilian in sight on our dime.
Harris checks most boxes when it comes to policy. As well as the fact that she has one unlike.” Cheeto Vonn Duesberg” I will not, however; Vote for relentless murder. That’s just me.
VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE.
Laurel says
What about the women in THIS country?
Dennis C Rathsam says
Nothing but avoiding the real truth! The lies coming out of Harris,s mouth are unbelieveable!!! TRUMP has no abortion ban! Lie # 1 TRUMP is a Nazi, Lie # 2 TRUMP is deranged LIE # 3! The HARRIS folks are watching in slow motion of the demize of her folly! If you think she can fix all the things she destroyed as VP! If you can believe all the lies, remember she was the last person in the room…. 13 died in Afganistan, due to ignorance, how many young American girls were raped & murdered by the open border? Thanx to Harris! She said on the View, when asked if she would do so things differently… She said NOTHING COMES TO MIND! WHAT MIND!!!!!
Whathehck? says
You forgot to mention the famous post-birth abortion.
Out of the old man’s mouth “Under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth. … The governor of Virginia said, ‘We put the baby aside, and then we determine what we want to do with the baby. … In other words, we’ll execute the baby.’” (Distorted words of Virginia’s Gov).
Trump called Harris a “very low IQ individual”, also lazy and slow.
During a rally in Greensboro, North Carolina, he called Harris a “stupid person” and went on to ask: “Does she drink? Is she on drugs?” “Kamala is mentally impaired.” (WI). “Joe Biden became mentally impaired. It’s sad, but lying Kamala Harris, honestly, I believe she was born that way,” the former president said (Erie PA).
“he claim that immigration brings on a crime wave can be traced back to the first immigrants who arrived in the U.S. Ever since the 1980s and ’90s, this false narrative saw a resurgence.
“During the current presidential campaign, the vitriol has been intense. Just in the last few months, former President Donald Trump has spoken of immigrants as criminals and mentally ill people who are “poisoning the blood of our country.” (Jasmine Garsd)
The dude says
Fell out of the MAGA tree and hit every branch on the way down… again…
Don’t worry though, our healthcare system will see him and treat him, regardless of race, color, political persuasion, or rigid adherence to Nazi ideology…
I know his wingman Jimbo is around here somewhere… Ready, able, and willing to be his wingman and blame all the MAGA problems of Floriduh, and this nation, on President Biden…
Edith Campins says
He is either senile or deranged. What has hse destroyed as VP? Be specific. As for the hatred and lies he spews….https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/12/trump-racist-rhetoric-immigrants-00183537
DaleL says
Dennis: Your comments are not factual.
According to Trump’s first wife, Ivana Trump, Donald kept a book of Hitler’s speeches which he presumably read and/or studied. So is TRUMP a Nazi really a Lie? If he is not, he is certainly Nazi adjacent.
According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump kept a book of Hitler’s speeches near his bed.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8?op=1
While Trump was president, 45 American service member combat deaths and 18 “non-hostile” deaths. Donald Trump negotiated the United States withdraw with the Taliban at Camp David. Trump has been blatantly lying about the whole “deal”.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-afghanistan-troops-killed-659053265479
“Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate” “During this (study) time, undocumented immigrants had the lowest offending rates overall for both total felony crime (see exhibit 1) and violent felony crime (see exhibit 2) compared to other groups. U.S.-born citizens had the highest offending rates overall for most crime types, with documented immigrants generally falling between the other two groups.”
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate
demand better says
please document and show the lies coming out of Harris mouth, cause that is a lie. Trump is a convicted lying sex offender. Turn off the fake news and read a banned book or something. Your in a cult.
ric Santo says
Dennis, you are an example of the uneducated, misinformed, narrow minded voter that Hillary warned America about. I have no doubt that you are an election denier who believes that the Capitol rioters were patriots.
The brain drain of America has been going on for many years now. The ignorant, uneducated families are having many, many children who they are training to be stupid just like mom and dad. The educated people are often electing to not produce any children at all (no wonder). It is just simple math (which btw, the children are not learning). If you ever look at the states that elected the orange boy in 2016, they are some of the most uneducated states in this country.
Hopefully, the orange turd will not be elected and then he will be prosecuted to the FULLEST extent of the law. Then he will get to wear his favorite color: orange.
Laurel says
Trump brags about overturning Roe v Wade.
Trump is using Nazi language to his supporters such as calling people “vermin,” and supporting his lawyers who stated he should be able to kill his political rivals without prosecution.
Trump is the most unbelievable narcissist I have ever seen, something is definitely amiss there.
Trump planned to leave Afghanistan earlier, with less notice.
So, exactly how many “young American girls were raped and murdered by the open border?” and where did you get your facts for that and all of your other statements here?
One does not have a lack of intelligence and becomes the elected Attorney General of a state of nearly 40,000,000 people.
You really need to change the channel.
By the way, the garbage truck was incredibly stupid.
Sherry says
@ dennis. . . post links to “credible facts” for your “always” outrageous claims, otherwise we will all continue to know that everything you post is nothing but brainwashed BS. BTW. . . capitalizing words do NOT turn them into facts. . . no matter how many times you and your god trump post them.
You really, really need immediate counseling to help bring you into “reality”
oh, man says
Why in the world would anyone believe as a Vice President, that person has any real say/control/policy making abilities? Please name ANY Vice President that should take the blame for ANYTHING a President did? I’m in my 50’s and Trump’s VP is the only one I can remember that did anything note worthy– certify the election! Harris is NOT Biden, Harris did not shape Biden’s policies, Harris as VP would NOT be able to stop or reform Biden’s policies, etc. Know your basic middle school/high school level civics for crying out loud! Stop pointing a finger, for the first time ever, to a VP for how our country has been run. For those right leaning twits, in your own words, shame on you!
Laurel says
Reading these comments, it’s apparent that people find it hard to tell about which direction Trump’s lies are going in. When he said that Haitians “They are eating the dogs. They are eating the cats. They are eating the pets” was he lying about “eating the pets,” or was he lying when he said he didn’t know whether they are eating the pets, he just read it in a paper and felt the need to pass it on? But then he added “Where did the geese go?” Maybe he was lying to make a joke? Was he lying to back Vance’s lie? Someone has to skedaddle quickly to cover for his insanity and to tell us what he *really means*, like when he suggested bleach, light or horse de-worming pills to kill COVID. His people have to skedaddle a lot.
He did tell the truth when asked about grabbing women by the pussy. When confronted with the recording, that revealed “Yeah, that’s her, with the gold. I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. I just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. You can grab them by the pussy.” His response was “Yes, unfortunately…or fortunately.” Fortunate for whom?
When looking at a picture of EG Carroll, he really believed that it was his second wife, Marla Maples, and said so, so that was the truth. Was he lying when he said “Well, I’m going to do it, whether the women like it or not. I’m going to protect them.” I believe he is lying. We don’t want his *protection,* nor do we need it. Like he protected EG Carroll, and if you voted for him, and he wins and takes over the lives of your wives, daughters, sisters and friends, it’s on you.
It’s on you, so claim it, and get ready for more lies.
Doug says
People are so obsessed with one candidate lying, when the fact of matter is they all lie. It’s time to take your TDS medication.
Sherry says
@doug. . . while all politicians get lose with the truth . . . It is well documented that trump told over 30 THOUSAND lies while in office. He has also been found “Guilty” in court of “Criminally Lying” on his business records, and “Guilty” of “Fraud/Criminally Lying” in a second trail.
Dismissing all of his “criminality” by saying “all politicians lie means you are a mindless victim of the Fox/trump cult. BTW. . . not all politicians “Sexually Abuse” women. . . but, then again, I suppose you’ll try and say that’s OK too because you are completely blinded by your insane loyalty to your lord and master trump. How very pathetic and sad for you!
protonbeam says
Holy Crap – the left just doesn’t get it – this is the reason for trump’s overwhelming victory – the double standard, the look the other way, the free pass, the left is “righteously fighting for Democracy” while they line their own pockets – JOE BIDEN has had a 50-year career of continual lies (i’m sorry only the right lies- the left simply “mispeaks” and needs to often “clarify” and recite the liar cleaner phrase “just to be to be clear” or my favorite “look’ and then change the subject- Bidens very well documented lying about his education, his background, his family, his house burning down, being an 18-wheeler driver, growing up in a puerto rican community, that beau died in Iraq, about meetings he had with dead people, about no military deaths while he was in office as president, that he provided 500k electric charging stations for EV;s, being in places he never was, lied about crime, lied that he secured the border, lied about his possession of classified docs (don’t take my word read the Hur report), lied that he taught constitutional law, lied that he knew putin for 40-years, lied about his involvement with the civil rights movement, lied that he was a naval academy appointee, lied about his million miles on amtrak, lied that he was the first in his family to go to college, lied that he was arrested during civil rights movement, lied about his uncle, that he traveled 17,000 miles with Xi Jinping, and which story inspired him to run for office – was it vietnam, or cesar chavez, or the CR movement (he’s separately claimed each and more as the “reason”, and on and on and on- and that’s just the big ones from the last 12 months – every time he opened his mouth he lied about something…literally…
Maybe we just cal liars out for liars – making every human failing a partisan is self destructive and stupid