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Zero Tolerance For Threatening Students? Not Exactly: Flagler District Enacts More Reasoned Approach

October 2, 2019 | FlaglerLive | 11 Comments

Threat-assessment teams on each of Flagler County's 10 school campuses mean that a law enforcement response to threats isn't always necessary. (© FlaglerLive)
Threat-assessment teams on each of Flagler County’s 10 school campuses mean that a law enforcement response to threats isn’t always necessary. (© FlaglerLive)

From the looks of it, it appears as if every time a student in Flagler County schools makes a threat to kill, an arrest and a felony charge follows, the sheriff repeats law enforcement’s “zero tolerance” for such threats, and local media report on the arrest.

But the public is seeing only part of the story. The way schools in Flagler County and across Florida now handle security threats on post-Parkland campuses is not nearly as draconian as those arrests make it appear. The reason: there is a contradiction in Florida security laws passed in the wake of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School massacre in February 2018.


On one hand, the Legislature toughened the law against those who make threats to kill, resulting in what seems like automatic criminal charges for those who do. More than a dozen Flagler County students have faced such charges between last year and this year, with two so far this school year.

On the other hand, Florida law now also requires not only that all school districts have “Threat Assessment Teams,” but that they adopt and run according to Dewey Cornell’s threat-assessment tool–what’s known as the Virginia Student Threat Assessment Guidelines.

The assessment guidelines are designed to give school personnel a tool to prevent campus violence and school shootings. The guidelines are also explicitly designed to reduce reliance on zero-tolerance approaches, which Cornell says can have the opposite of their intended effect.

“We had a child who chewed his pop tart into the shape of a gun and was suspended from school,” Cornell, who is opposed to zero-tolerance, told a PBS interviewer. “After the Sandy Hook shooting, a first grader in Maryland went pow-pow with his finger and was suspended from school. These are fearful overreactions that send a really negative message throughout the school.” He added: “We’ve done a series of controlled studies over the past 15 years, showing that when schools use our model, their suspension rates go down, their bullying goes down, and the threats aren’t carried out.”

On Tuesday, the Flagler County School Board heard from its risk management director, David Bossardet, and senior administrator Earl Johnson who, along with Board Attorney Kristy Gavin, attended and got certified in Cornell’s threat-assessment training. Gavin and Bossardet have since held four training sessions in the district for 90 individuals who now form each school’s threat assessment team. Bossardet and Johnson were updating the board on the latest security recommendations the board is due to adopt later this month.

The threat-assessment team discussion was brief, touching generally on the legal requirements and what the teams mean. But a look behind the generalities reveals a more complex, nuanced and deliberate approach now in place to address all campus-based security threats, and to address them with reasoned care, counseling and help unless they rise to a level of seriousness that warrants more drastic interventions.

If several students have been arrested and faced charges since last year, it’s not necessarily been because the threat assessment teams recommended it, but because when threats are reported directly to the sheriff’s office, law enforcement is required to respond according to law–not with a threat assessment team, but with its own investigations and arrests. The result is often cases that circumvent school-based assessment teams that would not have led to the student’s arrest. And in fact Gavin confirmed that in the majority of cases, students do make threats but are never arrested because the threat-assessment team approach doesn’t have to be that punitive.

“You’re assessing whether or not the individual truly poses a threat–not whether they made a threat, but whether they pose a threat,” Gavin said, and whether the threat was “transient, serious or very serious.” A transient threat is the majority of threats: it’s when a student tells another something along the line of “I’m going to kill you,” but without gauging the words, without the plans to carry out the threat, let alone the means to do so. There’s nothing behind the threat. “That’s when you have that teachable moment, ‘words have meaning, we don’t just throw these words out there,'” Gavin said.

A serious threat can be more specific–like a challenge to fight or hurt somebody at a certain point, which can also be a ploy for attention. The assessment team is then  “assessing what interventions need to be made to assist this child, to assist this student in making better decisions using a support system that maybe they don’t have, using mental health counseling, because there’s something going on in their lives,” Gavin said.  “It’s putting things back into perspective, the way it should be. It’s also realizing that we also have kids who, like I said before, they say things in the heat of the moment, perhaps at various ages they don’t understand what they’re saying. They’re just parroting things that they’ve heard and as a result of that, they’re making statements that really have no meaning to them, or they have no way of carrying it out, they have no method, no plan, there’s no thought process to it.” 

The Dewey Cornell approach is “an evidence-based program, that’s why they chose to use it at the state,” Gavin said. 

Each school’s threat-assessment team is made up of an administrator, a counselor or a psychologist, an instructional faculty member, and the school’s resource deputy. If the student in question is in special education, then a special education faculty member is also added to the team. The team doesn’t always gather for every threat: some are dealt with by the dean or individual administrators if they don’t rise to the level of triggering an assessment. Otherwise, every threat must be documented and filed at the district and with the state–including threats made by adults on campus, whether parents, other visitors, or school employees.

The inherently measured approach by the team is not seen as contradicting law enforcement’s mission. “They understand and they’re very appreciative that we’re not getting them involved,” Gavin said of the school-resource deputies. “They understand the process.”

The idea is to be better aware and apply a more caring, counseling and preventive approach than an exclusionary or alienating one, like suspensions. “You don’t prevent a forest fire by waiting until the trees are all ablaze, you pay attention to all the campfires, you make sure all the campfires are taken care of,” Cornell told the PBS interviewer. “And we have incidents of bullying all the time in our schools, and the more that we can do to deal with these minor conflicts before they escalate into more serious ones, the better off we’ll be.” 

Bossardet echoed some of those words as he summed up the security recommendations to the school board Tuesday, which included recommendations from first responders to provide better points of access to campuses while also hardening certain campuses, putting up more fencing, strengthening certain doors and windows, reducing the visibility of staff and students from people outside of campus, and so on. (The school board will hold a closed-door session later this month to examine the recommendations in more detail.)

 “Obviously we want to address all the results, all the requests we’ve received from our first responders,” Bossardet said. “But I know in conversations with our school board and Mr. Tager in particular,” he said of Jim Tager, the superintendent: “Physical hardening of our campuses is a major concern, but in order to truly create a safe and secure environment, we need to make sure we’re addressing the social, emotional well-being of our students and our staff. So our recommendations for next steps moving forward, as I said, address the recommendations from our first responders in terms of the physical hardening of our campuses, provide additional training for staff in order to not only properly identify but also address students in crisis as well as those who pose a threat to the school’s community; expand our students’ crime watch program similar to the one that Future Problem Solvers started at FPC with our Bulldog Patrol, we’d like to see that continue throughout campuses in our district, and just continue to promote the importance of reporting suspicious activity.” 

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  1. Concerned Citizen says

    October 2, 2019 at 7:55 pm

    Why are we going back and forth on this.

    At school age. Especially once you get into Highschool you know right from wrong. It’s NOT ok to make threats of any kind. It’s not a joking matter or a just kidding moment to make a threat to commit violence. These matters should be taken seriously. Especially when weapons are involved.

    There are actions for consequences. If you or I threaten to kick someones ass I guarentee you we are going to go to jail. It should be no different with teenagers who are learning responsability and how to function as adults. Likewise if a threat is made with a weapon then by all means investigate it. What happens when we start ignoring these situations then something happens.

    I am sorry that that the threat of a felony at a young age is so damaging. Guess what? You made that choice. Don’t want a felony then don’t make threats. Let’s stop trying to be politically correct and bow to the pressure of media harrassment. If a student makes a threat toward another student staff or facility then charge them accordingly and prosecute. Maybe just maybe if you follow thru then it will stop some of this nonsense.

  2. A screwed senior says

    October 2, 2019 at 9:02 pm

    One year to late

  3. FPC Granny says

    October 3, 2019 at 6:45 am

    GREAT article!!
    “It’s putting things back into perspective, the way it should be”, says it all!!

  4. Nursejones says

    October 3, 2019 at 7:50 am

    Are you serious? Let me say something. I deal with these kids after they are arrested. The kids nowadays have absolutely no respect and think they are above the law! Do you really think that a stearn talking to can prevent the violence these kids are doing and threatening? Absolutely not! They need to be arrested and suffer the consequences, it’s the only way! This trauma enforced care that they use is a joke, these kids manipulate the system constantly! Thinking that a counselor and “a talking to” will prevent the violence these kids are doing and threatening will stop them is insane! If anything, they need to be upgraded to the adult system, give them a taste of consequences! It’s the only way to keep our children safe!! Zero tolerance and the “it’s no joke” program is the only way to keep our children safe! Why would you risk anything else? These juveniles are out of control and need to be dealt with and not with kit gloves. Good Lord 😵

  5. FPC Granny says

    October 3, 2019 at 9:46 am

    You mean to tell me you have never said anything as a kid or even as an adult in the heat of the moment that you regret saying? Should felony charges be brought against you? I don’t believe you can “lump” all kids in one basket. Yes, trying to stop issues before they even become a problem seems like very smart thinking to me. Helping a kid who is being bullied and then that same kid says something stupid because he is so frustrated with the bullier, then winding up with felony charges, only compounds issues and problems in so many ways! So yes, looking at cases individually and addressing each issue separately versus “lumping” all as bad is not a very smart approach to me.

  6. capt says

    October 3, 2019 at 11:07 am

    Nursejones is spot on, As a retired commander with the Dallas Police department these kids do know better, but in my opinion their upbringing at home is largely to blame. Make the parents responsible. If the school and law enforcement stop just one of these threats its possible they just might have prevented a future threat by the same person. But as I noted, Make the parents responsible. Zero tolerance period.

  7. ril says

    October 3, 2019 at 11:20 am

    Until students are held accountable they will not learn. They already know right from wrong by 6th grade. If they don’t it is the parents’ fault. Yes, FPC granny put things back into perspective- when parents force their kids to behave, respect adults and the authority, feel consequences for their choices, do school work and try to get out of every situation by having “mommy” write a note. Yes, make kids fearful of having the school call home because they do not want to get in trouble by their PARENTS.

  8. Jackson Emerson says

    October 3, 2019 at 11:34 am

    Do away with all the discipline and all the laws. Soon. We are headed in that direction anyway so why delay? Make it a free for all, Darwinism!

  9. Mary Fusco says

    October 3, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    ril, very well said. It will never happen because parents have opted out of parenting. In all the years my 4 children were in school, never heard of such ludicrous behavior. Why? Did kids get into fights? YES. Did they threaten to kill? NO. Society needs to stop defending these junior delinquents and making their parents responsible. BTW, if I got a call from the school, my kids would be very sorry and it wouldn’t happen again. That is because I parented.

  10. Concerned Citizen says

    October 4, 2019 at 10:30 pm

    @ FPC Granny

    I went to Highschool from 90-94. We never had threats of violence like this. And if you got into a fight or smarted off to a teacher you got detention or suspension and that was the end of it. Plus a grounding and possibly the belt when you got home.

    I guess times are different now and it’s OK to be an insubordinate bully because kids don’t have mommy and daddy to hold their hand every step of the way. I suppose we have to coddle to them and give them a safe space and let them throw their tantrums and make their threats.

    Wonder what would happen if we helped teachers regain control of the classrooms? Wonder what would happen if we limited internet access and restricted social media? Or what about no phones in class? There’s a novel concept. I’m surprised at the free reign kids have with devices. I thought I was special my senior year because I volunteered with our local FD and the principal let us carry a pager. Parents need to lock those phones down and restrict access. Then schools can come in and block these sites. They aren’t detrimental to development.

    I fully believe that if you committ a criminal act even at a young age then their needs to be consequences. Start prosecuting and send messages. It might just have an effect.

  11. ril says

    October 5, 2019 at 10:35 am

    @FPC Granny . As I read your comments, I understand that it is people who feel all these kids are being lumped together are the problem, Yes, they are being lumped together- The lump consists of all the kids who choose to make threats, disrespect others, cry victim when caught and parents who try to defend and entitle their children who they have neglected to teach that there are consequences in life. It amazes me that %95 of the students understand right from wrong and these few darling students don’t?

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